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Blog Central: Law and Order Damon Locantro has made a name for himself on the Sunshine Coast defending people charged with breaking the law. His practice, Locantro Lawyers, specialises in criminal defence but also offers services to those facing action by a government department. Damon has 15 years experience in criminal law and was formerly a NSW prosecutor and member of the NSW Police Service.

Do we really need tasers?

January 31 | Damon Locantro

Police officers must be running out of room on their belts with the introduction of taser guns.

They are being introduced to overcome the inaccuracies of capsicum spray, which has caused the police a few sore eyes.

There are also other difficulties with the use of capsicum spray. It blinds people and causes extreme pain, supposedly enabling police to gain physical control over a person who is not co-operating.

In a lot of cases, the use of the spray has made people more violent and more uncooperative, resulting in a bigger problem for the police and on occasion leading to damage of police property.

I think tasers will create the same problem. They will control some, but it is the people who have had a lot of alcohol or drugs or both that are the hardest to handle.

These people have dulled senses – especially when it comes to feeling pain.

Here is some information from Wikipedia describing to what the taser does:

“Electroshock weapon technology uses a temporary high-voltage low-current electrical discharge to override the body's muscle-triggering mechanisms. The recipient is immobilised via two metal probes connected via metal wires to the electroshock device.

“The recipient feels pain, and can be momentarily paralysed while an electric current is being applied. It is reported that applying electroshock devices to more sensitive parts of the body is even more painful.

“The maximum effective areas for stun gun usage are upper shoulder, below the rib cage and the upper hip.

”The relatively low electric current must be pushed by high voltage to overcome the electrical resistance of the human body. The resulting 'shock' is caused by muscles twitching uncontrollably, appearing as muscle spasms.

“Experts generally agree that the 'margin' of safety in this case is highly dependent on the overall health of the person subjected to the shock. The higher the voltage, the more adverse it is.

“According to the many sources, a shock of a half-second duration will cause intense pain and muscle contractions, startling most people greatly. Two to three seconds will often cause the subject to become dazed and drop to the ground, and over three seconds will usually completely disorient and drop an attacker for at least several seconds.

”TASER International warns law enforcement agencies that ‘prolonged or continuous exposure(s) to the TASER device’s electrical charge’ may lead to medical risks such as cumulative exhaustion and breathing impairment. Because there is no automatic stop on a taser gun, many officers have used it repeatedly or for a prolonged period of time, thus potentially contributing to suspects’ injuries or death.”

I don’t like seeing new weapons introduced. I don’t believe that weapons are the answer.

The use of the taser may have very real implications for the police officer using it. There seems to be a fine line between the use of the taser for one, two or three seconds, and the risk to a person’s health obviously gets much more serious.

I would not feel comfortable using a weapon of this nature, particularly when a person’s behaviour is uncooperative because they are intoxicated or on drugs.

What do you think? Is such a weapon necessary?

Recent Comments

on 31 January, 2008 at 9:51 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
So would you prefer police revert back to just using pistols? I'm sure that would be a greater "risk to a person's health" that you are so concerned about.

I commend the police for looking for "softer options" to control dangerous criminals. At least this way they are still alive after the arrest so you can represent them and tell the judge how innocent or hard done by these criminals are. I guess if the Police reverted to pistols, you might lose a few potential clients?

Do you ever see the positives in any police related initiative?
on 31 January, 2008 at 9:53 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Perhaps we should just shoot them then!
Or maybe stop police from doing anything, they could just sit back and watch instead.
No capsicum spray, no tasers... we could stop them using handcuffs and making arrests too. Or they could just give the offenders a big hug and send them on their way...
The stuff you come out with on this blog baffles me.
on 31 January, 2008 at 10:19 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Capsicum spray!!! Tasers!!! Isn't about time government, local councils and the like step forward and take responsibility for their actions of the past 15 years..........!!! Allowing these small property lots for dwellings to be built on (sure they put a parkland area in each estate). Great planning people! This has just forced kids out onto the streets at an earlier age! Take a short look back and it is easy to see that it is since these development estates have been approved that this is when our youth problem slowly began. Now the authorities can't control it, therefore the introduction of (apparent) control force. Maybe we should sit them in the hall or corner or somewhere similar for some "Quiet Time". (That'd work, ROFL).
on 31 January, 2008 at 11:58 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
So once again we are worried about law breakers and trouble makers and how they will be affected if their behavior is so bad the police are needed to intervene.

I'm sorry, but if you acting in such a way that the police are called, and then you continue to be a risk to others you deserve to be tasered.

We see articles in the paper almost every day about how hoons and thugs have taken over our neighborhoods, yet when a non lethal deterrant is available the first reaction is 'oooooh but it might hurt the bad guy'.

One word - tough. Maybe next time Joe Lumphead decides to pick a fight at the local pub and ands up getting tasered, he might think twice about doing it again.

I would love to see every police officer armed with a Taser and not a pistol. If an armed response is needed then a special armed should should be called.
on 31 January, 2008 at noon ( Suggest removal )
Damon

1) Anyone can post on Wikipedia... You should use a more credible reference.

2) You "don't believe that weapons are the answer" but you did not provide an alternative.

3) If people do the the right thing & obey the law, they will not be in a situation where capsicum spray/tasers will be used. If they do not then they have to deal with the conseqences. Maybe they will learn from the experience & not do it again?
on 31 January, 2008 at 1:37 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
It is very easy, Mr Locantro, to make sweeping comments about weapons not being the answer and then neither substantiate your viewpoint nor offer any feasible solutions of your own.

All too often your blog makes sensational and opinionated commentary without demonstrating any consideration of the alternatives. It would be refreshing to read some suggestions of what could be done to improve the many situations and policies with which you find fault.
on 31 January, 2008 at 2:36 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
at least if offenders are tasered, rather than shot, mr locantro gets the opportunity to defend them in court and turn a buck or two.
on 31 January, 2008 at 6:39 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
He's a lawyer. What else would you expect to come out of this known police-hater's mouth? The rubbish in this column is like O'Gorman's.
on 31 January, 2008 at 6:51 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
It would have been nice Damon if you had presented a balanced report on the use of tasers. Take this one from the American College of Emergency Physicians' Research Forum after recent testing:

"A US study of the nationwide use of Tasers, the electrical stun guns used by the police, suggests the devices are safe and cause only a low incidence of serious injuries.

The research examined nearly 1,000 cases of Taser use, and found 99.7 per cent of them had either no injuries, or only mild injuries such as "scrapes and bruises". In 0.3 per cent of the cases (3 people) the injuries were serious enough to require hospital admission. Two had head injuries sustained during falls after the Taser was used and the third was hospitalized two days after arrest with a condition "of unclear relationship to the Taser" said the researchers in a prepared statement.

Lead investigator on the study and specialist in emergency medicine at Wake Forest, Dr William Bozeman said:

"This study is the first large, independent study of injuries associated with Tasers. It is the first injury epidemiology study to review every Taser deployment and to reliably assess the overall risk and severity of injuries in real-world conditions."

"The injury rate is low and most injuries appear to be minor. These results support the safety of the devices," he added."

Hmmmmm....one wonders whether you considered that or just cut and paste the parts of your research that supported your argument. Are you running out of subjects for your weekly diatribe?

Anyway, lets get back to your original question - 'Do we really need tasers'. Which party are you representing? Police? Lawyers? Us, the community? Or do you have a higher cause?

If its the coppers then the answer would have to be a resounding 'YES'. Hold on, this guy is going off, going to assault me, wont listen to what I'm saying, wind is high...what are my choices?? I'm certainly not going to be knocked unconscious like my mate. And quite apart from that, why the hell should I put my life or health on the line just to bring this guy in so that he can get a minimal fine with no conviction?

Lawyers...conveniently omitted from Mr Locantro's article is the fact the Jared Feuer is the head of a major New York civil libertarian faction. Enough said??

Us? Don't know about you but Im quite concerned about the ink that The Daily is spending every day reporting bashings, assaults and the like in Mooloolaba, Noosa and across the whole Coast. We all remember the story a couple of months ago about the poor lad killed in the streets of Caloundra after a blue. I'm pretty sure he would have put his hand up for tasers, had he had the chance.

Or do you just consider the offenders? What ye sow shall ye reap. Centuries later it still makes sense, doesn't it.

Do we REALLY need tasers? I think the reply has already been written....unfortunately, in blood.
on 31 January, 2008 at 8:50 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
A lot depends on the controls and acountability placed on the use of tasers, the rules of engagement if you like. Unfortunately I fear the Police will employ a taser as the first option because it is quick and easy.

Don't ever say no or ask a reasonable question as to Police action, out will come the taser and zap (their) problem is solved, no more uncomfortable or awkward questions from the public to answer.

The Auditor
on 1 February, 2008 at 2:17 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
A major problem with the Taser stungun is that it can be used for more than a few seconds making it potentially a lethal weapon. Which is a design fault in the weapon.

Without a safety shut off it's asking a lot of individual officers to contain heightened emotions. It could simply result in more court cases, Police suing the Police Service and citizens suing the Police.

The other potential problem is that the Taser should not be used multiple times, which will come down to training and regulation. What are the proposed regulations? 17 bursts in 3 minutes killed a 21 year old in the US recently.

Will the factory fitted cameras be purchased or will be an unregulated free for all on the public.

The cameras would cut down abuse and provide Police with a way of explaining a situation that may appear excessive to non witnesses. Such as when Police used a stungun on a self harming 6 year old disabled child in the US, to some witnesses it seemed a the right thing to do, the public were outraged.

Private security guards using stunguns would be a nightmare.

Was the Stringer Systems stungun which has an automatic 4 second shut off evaluated or any other stungun product looked at? Was there a competitive tender?

Are we witnessing a possible cosy relationship between a single corporation, Government and a Police Union, no doubt greased with gifts, dinners and free trips? Was the evaluation period shortened because the vendor was pushing the sale, fearful of competition?

Darkknight, how would Taser armed Police have prevented the tragic killing on the streets of Caloundra when no Police where at the scene?

Heavy enforcement of responsible service laws and adequate public transport from licensed venues would be part of an actual solution.

However the alcohol industry and Road building lobby (anti-public transport) are heavy donors to the major State based political parties so resources will not be heading towards actual solutions any time soon. Just more bread and circuses whilst snouts are in the trough.
on 2 February, 2008 at 8:52 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Jason. I never claimed that it would have prevented the tragedy in Caloundra, but that incident along with a multitude of others that are seemingly increasingly across the Coast are testiment to our society becoming more violent and out of control.
on 3 February, 2008 at 9:04 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Mr Locantro, how dare you insult the intelligence of the general public by quoting Wikipedia and trying to flog it off as fact. Almost everyone who knows how to turn on a computer knows that Wikipedia contains information that is at very best.... unreliable!

The simple fact of the matter is that Tasers might actually work and be a deterrent. However this would not be an ideal situation for a criminal defence lawyer such as yourself, now would it? Less criminals equals less business for yourself and there's a FACT we should all consider when we read your next lot of self serving rubbish you decide to put on this site.
on 4 February, 2008 at 9:05 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
KNarracott, Wikipedia has been proven to be more accurate than Encyclopaedia Britannica and is great starting place for researching most topics. By providing his source of information, Mr Locantro is giving you the reader the opportunity find out more information, if you can be bothered that is.

Stunguns are a useful tool and if deployed correctly are a positive progression. However the Taser product is not a good stungun and has faults that will result in court cases, as has happened in the US. Even the best stungun will not be a silver bullet that reduces crime, if you believe they are, I have a bridge for sale that has great harbour views that you might be interested in. If you don't like lawyers, you're not alone, the military dictatorship in Pakistan also hates lawyers standing up for the rule of law.

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