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Police want interview with child killer


Queensland police want to speak to notorious child killer Valmae Beck, who is critically ill in a north Queensland hospital, in the hope she can shed light on unsolved cases.

Beck, 64, who has changed her name to Fay Cramb, was admitted to Townsville Hospital on Monday suffering from a shortness of breath.

She had been taken there from Townsville Correctional Centre, where she is serving a life sentence for the 1987 murder of 12-year-old Sunshine Coast schoolgirl Sian Kingi.

Beck, above, was jailed after she and husband Barrie Watts lured Sian to their car by pretending to look for a lost dog.

They then took her to the Tewantin State Forest, where Sian was raped, stabbed and strangled.

Beck underwent minor heart surgery yesterday, before her condition deteriorated and she was placed in a coma last night.

Queensland Police Minister Judy Spence said today investigators were hoping to speak to Beck.

“I know there are police who have dealt with her and Barrie Watts over the years who believe that she may still have information on some unsolved crimes,” Ms Spence told ABC Radio.

“They would like to interview her at this point of time, when she faces her own mortality, and see if she’s got something else to say.”

The couple, who were living in Ipswich at the time of the murder, were described as vile predators by prosecutors when they later faced trial. They had lured Sian, who was on her way home after school, to their car in Noosa Junction.

Her body was found about a week later.

Police released a description of a vehicle seen in the area about the time of the attack. Beck and Watts were arrested in Gosford after a caravan park operator recognised the car.

The couple gave evidence against each other during their trials.

Deputy Queensland Nationals leader Fiona Simpson, who was a reporter at the Sunshine Coast Daily at the time of the murder, said the killing had rocked the community.

“This is a community that had been safe, no one could ever have dreamt that this sort of a horror could have happened to one of the local children,” she told ABC Radio.

Meanwhile, a leading criminologist has shed some light as to why women child-killers commit murders. to please their partners, a leading criminologist says.

Prof Paul Wilson, who holds the chair of criminology at Bond University on the Gold Coast, said the motivation for women to kill children varied enormously, but was often carried out to please their male partners.

“In the case of a female child-killer, it is often to please their male companion and sometimes it is a combination of power and sexual excitement,” Prof Wilson told AAP today.

“Sometimes it is purely sadism.”

Beck had told a stunned court at her trial that Sian “never cried, never shed a tear (she was) a brave little girl, she never uttered a peep and just did everything he (Watts) told her”.

Prof Wilson said women child murderers could also show great remorse when their actions failed to please their male partners in the way they expected.

“There is a feeling of betrayal with them physically or emotionally that they had gone through all this for him,” he said.

Angry emails to media outlets have called for Beck, who is reportedly morbidly obese at 150kg, to be refused medical treatment.

But Prof Wilson said Beck should be entitled to the same medical treatment as any other person.

“She committed an appalling crime and she should serve out her life in prison, but I think that if we don’t deal with that in a humane way, then we are lowering ourselves and they are winning, not us,” he said.

“She must be offered medical services, as every prisoner should.”

- AAP

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Police want interview with child killer

Noosa 12-year-old Sian Kingi, who was brutally killed in 1987. One of the people convicted of the crime, Valmae Beck, has been rushed to Townsville Hospital and is in a critical condition.

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on 7 May, 2008 at 12:33 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Only mistake here was she was rushed anywhere!
on 7 May, 2008 at 7:28 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Karma!! Jboast is right!!
on 7 May, 2008 at 7:39 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Sounds like karma for an evil woman - not sure why these prisoners receive any sort of help. Did she ever consider her young victims?
on 7 May, 2008 at 7:48 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
That is life!

This sad event presents a strong example to reconsider the need to bring back capital punishment for heinous murderers.
on 7 May, 2008 at 9:55 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I agree Bob. That crime truly deserved the death penalty. Harden up Australia.
on 7 May, 2008 at 10:50 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I hope that Barrie Watts is praying for her, turn the life support off and let the Kingi family have some closure and save some tax-payers money.
on 7 May, 2008 at 11:54 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I was young when this murder happened and even before today's news I remember this poor girls name. What was done to her was a thing nightmares are made of . That this women even made news because of this heart surgery must crush the Kingi Family. I go with the others , This evil act shouldnt have resulted in bed and breakfast for the last 20 years she should have been dragged back to Tewantin state forest and shot
on 7 May, 2008 at 12:31 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
This Evil woman will never suffer the agony & pain she deserves, I feel that she deserves to feel all the pain possible until her time comes where she goes to hell.
on 7 May, 2008 at 12:43 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
21 years ago she (Val) and Barrie should have been rushed to the bottom end of Hastings St and made to walk out if they made it they could go free ............... Lots of TAX payer $$$ saved they would'nt have made it past the woods.
on 7 May, 2008 at 2:07 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
OK then, Professor, let's 'offer' her medical assistance ... then deny it and let her die !

The only argument for keeping this woman alive is to gain information about other unsolved cases she and Watts may have been involved in. As incentive for the info, offer her a less-painful death. If she declines, she can have the slow, painful option.

Yes, I'd do it personally ! Unfortunately I know a lot of the circumstances of the Sian Kingi case and I would have NO compassion whatsoever for this animal.
on 7 May, 2008 at 4:34 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
My, my, we all abhor what she did, but wish to do the same violence to her. Ironic, what?
on 7 May, 2008 at 6:03 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Bob_Bates How does the wish for her to have (a) been given the death penalty or (B) Have a slow painful death, equate to anything like the violence that was endured by Sian Kingi?
IF the death penalty was available in Australia in all likelihood it would be by lethal injection. A far less violent death the Sian suffered by all accounts.
As it is Beck is in an induced coma and probably will slip peacefully away without regaining conciousness. And judging by the response to the articles about her not a moment too soon.
Any compassion or sympathy I feel over this case is directed towards Sian, the Kingis and their friends. And yes for the children who have the misfortune to have this monster as a mother.
on 7 May, 2008 at 7:03 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Prison is no punishment for this animal. She should have been stabbed in similar fashion to what her young victim encounted. And same to her so called "husband". Its a joke that they would offer her any form of medical treatment .. she should just suffer and die. Being a mother to an 18 month old little girl makes me realise that NOBODY has the right to hurt someone's child. These are sick, sick people and unless some stronger form of punishment is given, it gives no real closure to the parents and relatives of Sian Kingi. Knowing that these people are alive while their little girl is gone is just heartbreaking.
on 8 May, 2008 at 11:02 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
This evil woman has no right to life at all. She deserves to die a painful and excruiating death. She gets to recover/die in a hospital bed and Sian got tortured, raped & killed watching the faces of these evil animals. I feel sickened that the tax payers money has gone to support such ferels for so many years. Bring back capital punishment, and even thats too good for people like her.
on 8 May, 2008 at 8:04 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
You and I like to spar, Mr Bates, but don't engage in antics on this issue !

There are exceptions to every rule - and this b**** and Watts ARE the exception to the "no capital punishment" rule. And don't even bother asking if I'd do the deed, or look their family in the eyes while informing them of the death - I have had to tell other families of deaths of INNOCENT, LAW-ABIDING people at the hands of people like Beck.

She deserves nothing. Save your "no capital punishment" drive for another cause.
on 8 May, 2008 at 9:06 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
wordz3175 asked me:

"Bob_Bates How does the wish for her to have (a) been given the death penalty or (B) Have a slow painful death, equate to anything like the violence that was endured by Sian Kingi?"

I dunno specifically, but I could readily find out the gory details.

But. I don't want to.

I have a profound disrespect for the argument/POV, that it ought be a cornerstone of a civilised society that an act of individual physical violence must be met with state sanctioned physical violence.

Personally, I blame Jesus for my position on this.
on 8 May, 2008 at 9:23 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
OK so let the crims have BASIC medical care. Not try keep this Evil woman alive. Turn the machines off. The nations hearts have always been with the Kingi family and friends. Spare a thought for how this family might be feeling right now. Or how would you be feeling if it were your child. Forgiveness, I don't think so. Compassion, Yes for the Kingi family who have had this rammed down their throats by the media since "IT" went to hospital. Bring back capital punishment for such killers, NOT first class treatment by doctors who could be helping someone who actually deserves it.....
on 9 May, 2008 at 7:18 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I am not totally comfortable with the idea of capital punishment. But even I can see there are certain cases that if it were the law of the land, deserve such punishment. And this would be one of them.
I do not see it ever being introduced into Australia again. BUT if it were there would have to be ABSOLUTELY no doubt about the convicted person guilt and in Becks case there is not. After all you can not undo putting someone to death if you later find out you were wrong (eg Lindy Chamberlain)
When it comes right down to it, I am in total agreement with dragonfly.
In the end Becks will be judged for eternity by God when she finally passes. But after such a horrendous crime do the do gooders actually think people should feel any different to what they are saying? I don't, the released details of the murder are enough.Imagine what would happen if the police had of released all the details, which were deemed to be too distressing for the public to be made aware of.
on 9 May, 2008 at 7:43 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Good call, Bob. Take my word on this one, mate, leave the rest of it alone. Its one of those things that once you get you can never give back.

I hope others have the maturity and good sense (not to mention respect) to follow your choice.
on 9 May, 2008 at 8:10 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
That's the Problem PROF Whoever you are.Dills like you claim that vermin like Beck HAVE Rights.They have no rights.
You have no right to use your position to claim such nonsense.
Maybe you would be more suited to preaching to the filth that are rotting away in our Gaols like DENYER and BRAZIL and KATHERINE BURNEY.
I challenge you to stand up in a NOOSA Hotel and repeat your waffle in a public bar.
I could then preach how the guy that breaks your jaw has got rights and see how you agree while sucking your dinner through a straw.
on 9 May, 2008 at 9:28 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
That represents a fairly balanced view on life turbyoulance. No doubt about that!

What is it with people like you? Wilson has been around criminology etc for at least 30+ years. He is learned. He also has extensive practical forensic experience, including being published as a party to unearthing wrongly convicted "murderers."

You?
on 10 May, 2008 at 2:45 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Revenge is not sweet, it has a very big payback, it can make our anger, outrage and hatred justified,and the more we feed it the more we want.

Beck lives every day knowing that society abhors her, she is alone and will die alone, to be hated so much by those around her including her fellow inmates, is justice.

She has been denied the most basic human need...acceptance, and this is deserved. Time I believe is what people like Beck need, no one escapes the life lessons reflection brings, I believe that is why we are here.

To treat her by giving her the medical assistance she needs says more about us as humans, even in the face of adversity we still know how to to be basically human and decent.
on 13 May, 2008 at 3:09 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
turbyoulance, threatening someone with physical violence only because his opinions on a given matter happen to differ from your own is one more symptom of what is wrong with Australian society. People like you seem to forget that freedom of speech is a protected right as long as no-one insults your pet snake, your mother or yourself.

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