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1:29AM Sunday 20 July, 2008 Sunshine Coast weather Mostly sunny min 9° - max 23°

Reed scraps $600m Big Top makeover

The Reed Property Group has scrapped its $600 million plans for the redevelopment of Maroochydore’s Big Top shopping centre into three 20-storey towers.

Changes in the political will of former councillors towards high-rise and the loss of anchor tenant David Jones to Sunshine Plaza last week caused the company to change its plans for the 3.5ha CBD site.

Managing director Ken Reed was optimistic that within 60 days a new vision would be prepared for the site, to be submitted to the council before the end of the year.

He said it would be one which would “comply with the provisions under Maroochy Plan 2000”.

Reed unveiled its elaborate and detailed plans to redevelop the Big Top Shopping Centre into Metro in October 2004, and announced it would begin demolition of the old tent structure by February 1, 2005.

First it had to obtain approval from the former Maroochy Council to amend the town plan, which allowed for only residential development up to 37.5 metres – or about 12 storeys – on that site.

Mr Reed said the company had been optimistic this would occur, with “everyone quite excited at the time” and the 20-storey vision similar in height to apartment block Northcliff across the road.

“Council officers spoke about the process we would need to go through to gain acceptance of the application,” Mr Reed said

This involved amendment of the planning scheme to incorporate the new height.

“But before the council would consider it, they wanted to look at the CBD as a whole and the CBD taskforce was engaged. Each step took months and months, but we remained consistent with our (planned) design outcome on the site.

“The taskforce then decided a structure plan for the CBD was needed and this also took months to produce.

“About this time we became involved in discussions with David Jones and so we developed a second concept for the site, which incorporated a centre based around the location of David Jones on the property.

“We had been involved in discussions with David Jones for 18 months and this was very slow in the first instance. But we were largely responsible for getting them excited about Maroochydore as a location.

“It came down to two properties they were considering and the (DJs) board chose to locate on the Plaza site.

“We’re disappointed we didn’t win them as anchor tenant for the site, but we’re excited they’re establishing themselves in Maroochydore nonetheless. If it was not on our site, across the road is the perfect location.”

But Reed “lost momentum” as a result of the long negotiations with David Jones and would now have to consider other options on the site, Mr Reed said.

“We’ve owned it for about five years and in that time the market has changed considerably,” he said.

“We’re still keen to advance an application on that site in the near future but are now considering a mixed-use site with a smaller retail offering.”

Reed had no plans to sell the site and had kept existing tenants abreast of developments.

“It’s a great location,” he said.

“Our current position on property is we will consider options which comply with the town plan (37.5m for residential or 40m for commercial).”

Mr Reed admitted it had been a frustrating process.

“Apart from internally wanting to get on with it, our tenants are eagerly awaiting (the redevelopment),” he said.

“We informed them of the pitch to David Jones and we were awaiting the outcome, but that is now lost. It (the Big Top) is a lovely site near the river – it’s just a pity it is a bit of an eyesore.”

Sunshine Coast mayor Bob Abbot welcomed the news Reed would stick to the town plan.

“I’m certainly happy (Reed) decided to work within the town plan and they will get good service with that hopefully,” he said.

Mr Abbot said Reed had obviously “read the community interest” on high-rises.

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Reed scraps $600m Big Top makeover

Reed Property Group is now preparing a new vision for the Big Top site in Maroochydore's CBD.

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on 17 May, 2008 at 1 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
funny how these projects just drag on and on ...
Oh as a person who has lived in cities where DJ's are operating ... as a shopper, I wouldnt be too excited about them - compared with Myer they are a disappointing alternative ... pity, because they used to once be THE store to shop at.. oh How I culd reminisce about some of the good days of shopping. Farners? Anthony Hordern? Grace Bros??
What a great time it was to be dragged through these shops by determined parents .. but the reward, Lunch at the Coles Cafeteria ( with all its damask table cloths and stern looking staff) was always a great treat .. what our current generations miss and will never know...
on 17 May, 2008 at 6:37 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
One would have to ask whether the Reed group ever thought that it had a snowball's chance in hell of getting approval for a triple 20 storey tower anyway...anywhere on the Sunshine Coast.

I'm personally very pleased that DJ's is going into the Plaza and thereby putting the final nail in the 20 storey coffin.
on 17 May, 2008 at 9:32 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
That's a relief. We don't need any more big boxes of balconies hedging in the estuary. Whatever is built on the Big Top site should by sympathetic with its location next to that beautiful seascape, and not just hoist itself up to get the best view and be in everyone else's.
on 17 May, 2008 at 11:18 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
So now Reed can build heaps of 37.5m and 40m buildings (8 or 10 I think?) which comply with the town plan. Yep that would look fantastic and make everyone happy who never looked at the vision they had to increase green space for the area whilst still producing a viable residential and commercial mix.
The previous council deliberately dragged its feet so as it would never have to deal with the issue seriously. All that has even been talked about is "we don't want to be a Gold Coast". Totally agree but did anyone actually take the time to see the Metro vision in its entirety? I have always believed in the vision and despite the tall towers there was a lot of merit in their idea.
Opportunity lost I think but obviously I am in the minority. I wonder how jobs have gone as a result of this?
on 17 May, 2008 at 11:22 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Why dont they turn it into an entertainment centre, its the perfect location.
Make it like crown casino but without the casino bit... accommodation, entertainment, eating and shopping all in one location.
on 17 May, 2008 at 12:44 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
JBoast. I think that there was far more involved in this issue than just what happened to the Big Top. The Town Plan specifies a maximum building height which many feel is too high anyway. If even one exception was allowed it would set a precedent which would make it impossible to enforce the Plan's building heights in future.

Then, instead of having walls of 10 and 12 storey buildings we would have walls of 20+ storey buildings all over Maroochydore. Why not a 77 storey tower on the waterfront ?

Don't be too sentimental about the lost opportunities or jobs. There will be plenty of both at the Plaza expansion and then I'm sure that Reed (or someone else) will come back with an alternative proposal for the Big Top which will hopefully meet the Planning requirements. It's too good an opportunity isn't it ?
on 17 May, 2008 at 1:33 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I think council should encourage the development of an open public square style development (surrounded by their required tall buildings) with multi level shopping and entertainment surounding it. The open square could be could accommadate a number of alfesco type eateries surrounded by tranqual garden setting. But how about including a wide raised covered walkway over the busy road, from there to sunshine plaza (perhaps funded partly by council and the two centres) to help foot traffic around the CBD centre. This would be an optune time to help intergrate maroochydore as a pedestrian orieintated peoples CBD. I hope the council doen't blow this oppotunity.
on 17 May, 2008 at 6:19 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Question to all commentators on this subject; did you see the full Metro plan?
By approving 2 or 3 tall building DOES NOT mean it is open slather on further approvals. Each approval is on its merits and council has ability to approve 1, 2 or 3 signature buildings. We will regret this decision by our council.
on 18 May, 2008 at 9:29 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I don't think so J Boast. I know that you are involved in the property business but I think that you had better check your facts.
on 19 May, 2008 at 8:53 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
atapro, I know of nothing in the Town Plan that allows open approval of high buildings all over the coast if 1 exception is made however very happy to eat humble pie if this can be shown to me.
PS; did you ever see the full Metro plan?
on 19 May, 2008 at 12:25 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I agree with J Boast, and i did attend many of Reed's public consultations with their proposed ammendment to the town plan. The notion that by approving the extra height would set precedent for other tall buildings is incorrect.

The proposed ammendment was that a concession on height proportional to how much public space was provided on ground. Therefore you could only get the extra height if you gave so many sq.M of public space...and there were only two possible sites with enough area to make this condition work.

a site being walled with 8-10 buildings with less public space in my opinion is not as good an outcome as 2-3 slender buildings and much more ground level public plaza. More buildings create more shadowing and less pedestrian space. Its sensible to reduce building footprints at ground level.

Lets hope the new proposal is equally as innovative and doesn't fall back to being a a site dotted with mediocre, uninspiring concrete boxes.
on 19 May, 2008 at 12:50 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
OK. Having not seen the Reed plan, and being ganged up on, I have to concede that there may have been some merit in it which I was not aware of. But it's a bit of a mute point now.

Do either of you know why the Maroochy Council, widely regarded as being development and high rise supportive, did not approve the Reed plan.

JBoast. The Town Plan was hardly going to state that any exceptions would invalidate the plan. I was quoting a principle of Law.

Why did the Reed plan have to have triple 20 storey towers. Wasn't triple 12 storey towers enough to justify it for them? Or was there dummy spit actually about David Jones ?
on 19 May, 2008 at 1 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Thank "mmarch".
Whilst I am sure Reed will produce a quality alternative there is the commercial reality that money has to be made plus cover the holding costs they have incurred during councils delays. It is just sad that the narrow opinion all high buildings are bad has ruined any chance we had of getting a fantastic green CBD area near the river all paid for by a developer.
on 19 May, 2008 at 2:31 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
The much-vaunted CBD clusterf*** features pedestrian boulevards cantilevered out over what could otherwise once again be the delightful tidal inlet of Cornmeal Creek. That would be a miserable third-rate alternative to the standard of public open space this fabulous site right on the estuary actually rates
on 19 May, 2008 at 3:41 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
one can only speculate as to why the application was not entirely supported by the previous council, and im sure there are many theories.
One would assume that it would be politically difficult to sell to the public based on the misinformation presented partly in media and general scaremongers, the fear that we will become the 'gold coast'.

Preconcieved ideas and the belief that 'the floodgates will be opened to high rise' and many other myths have been presented, yet i have not seen any credible argument against knocking back a 20 storey tower other than the fact that its tall and its falls outside the town plan.

I haven't seen any overshadowing problems, microclimate, wind tunnellling etc against the proposal. Many good outcomes are outside the town plan and many poor outcomes fall within the town plan! Hopefully reeds 8-10 building alternative does not become one of the latter.

It all comes down to the general public not getting all the facts and replying with hysteria to a few catchy headlines. The council was merely listening to its constituents...which i guess they are elected to do.
on 19 May, 2008 at 7:01 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
The Maroochy Council didn't reject the DA - it was never submitted. If the speculative investors in this site or the David Jones complex just up the creek present the general public with Disney castle pastiche lash-ups like Sunshine Plaza, they and their apologists may have to realise that contempt for the constituency doesn't cut it.
on 31 May, 2008 at 11:53 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I thankful that the Big Top site is in the hands of Reed. At least I know Ken & Harry will develop something with some quality that can stand the test of time, that the people will enjoy and will be sympathetic with the people's needs. Reed dont want to turn our coast into the Gold Coast.
on 6 June, 2008 at 1:10 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I wish people would stop acting like they own big top. Its a dump and needs to go. Maroochydore is the hub of the sunshine coast and its an eye sore. The money is always in the ocean views, the higher they go the more units have ocean views the more money is generated. In turn more can be spent on ground floor public space. Going 10 storeys means in the end the public will get nothing they want and we will end up with a more 10 storey towers then one or two 20 storeys. Really 20 storeys is not that high especially for where it is surrounded by 10 - 12 storey buildings. Reed lodge an application, and go straight to the courts, besides many people dont know the big top site is of state signficance anyway. So it is not Councils call on this one its the state government.
Sorry if i upset some of the readers out there, but really big top needs to go, so we can get some life back into the CBD of our city and this back and forth has been dragging on for years now.

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