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9:09PM Sunday 07 September, 2008 Sunshine Coast weather Mostly sunny min 10° - max 23°

Alcopops drinkers switch to spirits

Medicos predicted it would happen – and it did.

The increased excise imposed on so-called alcopops – which has placed price increases of up to $1.30 on a bottle or can of the pre-mixed , sweetly flavoured alcoholic drinks – has already sent customers in the direction of full-sized spirit bottles and cola or similar additives.

Many believe that the early trend could see teenage binge drinkers encountering even bigger alcohol problems because of the likelihood the mixed drinks will be more potent.

Coast bottle shops have reported a decrease in sales of alcopops since the tax hit – but the same customers are now buying bottles of rum, scotch or bourbon instead.

The Daily spoke to bottle shop workers in Maleny, Nambour and Noosa, all of whom asked not to be identified beyond their first names, who confirmed the alcopop customers’ new drinks of choice.

Larry in Maleny said the new tax was “a joke”.

We are getting a lot of agitated people coming in – not kids but middle class-type people who would just like to buy one or two to take home for a drink after work.

“They are just changing drinks; they are buying a bottle of spirit now, then go across the road (to the supermarket) and buy 24 cans of Coke for $15.

“It’s just revenue.”

Sean in Nambour agreed.

“(And) if they can’t afford the spirits they’ll buy a cheap flagon of wine,” he said.

“If anything it will increase crime rates as (young drinkers ) will just try to steal alcohol instead.”

Allan in Noosa confirmed the trend there, saying sales were not slipping, just changing emphasis.

Coast medical association representative Wayne Herdy was not surprised.

“It reflects exactly what we predicted would happen,” he said.

“I spoke to a number of teenage girls about this, and they said they would buy bottles of spirit instead.”

Dr Herdy said alcopops were one of two “tricks” drinks companies used to attract young people, milky drinks being the other.

“They are clearly aimed at hooking young drinkers who may not like the taste of alcohol,” he said.

Dr Herdy said despite the tax “not having quite the effect” the federal government wanted, it was “highly desirable” to place whatever barriers it could to curb young people’s binge drinking.

The Rudd government imposed the 70% excise increase in late April, with revenue estimations of $3 billion.

Do you think the increased tax on alcopops will reduce teen binge drinking or is it hitting older drinkers just as much as the young? Has it prompted you to switch drinks?

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on 19 May, 2008 at 11:11 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Yes well done Labor. As a Police Officer I can tell you that the extra tax will only give the government more cash and will not make any difference to alcohol related issues.
on 19 May, 2008 at 11:18 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Good on you government, what a smart move not only know are the kids still only going to drink but probably drink even stronger drinks because instead of buying a six pack they are going to buy a bottle and mix stronger drinks and more of them. You wonder why as parents we all feel like we are knocking our heads against a brick wall, and no I dont buy my teens alcohol and give it to them, some other idiot does that for them.
on 19 May, 2008 at 11:22 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I have an eighteen year old son and from what I have seen thats what his mates are doing.. buying bottles of rum or whatever instead of mixed cans. I am pretty sure they mix their drinks stronger than what was in the cans too.
So it isn't helping the teenagers and we are also more likely ourselves to do the same.
on 19 May, 2008 at 11:48 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
What a ridiculous solution to this problem. Last night I went into my local bottle shop to purchase a 6 pack of Bundaberg Rum Mids (3.5%), the first ones I have purchased in 2 or 3 months to find that they had increased from $13 to $18. Heavy's that were $18 are now $23 ... for a 6 pack!!

When I enquired as to why the attendant advised it was the new tax to which I responded that I wasn't sure the tax had already been applied. Obviously it has. How is putting a tax on a mid strength premixed rum and cola halting binge drinking? It isn't.

It didn't stop me purchasing them this time because I am a 44 year old professional who can afford the extra I guess but did make me very angry at paying the extra $$$ tax. Obviously I'm a binge drinking risk.

I guess that won't buy these drinks anymore, rather in future I will buy a 700ml bottle, a 30ml nip measure and bottles or cans of cola.

Of course I went home and only drank 2 of the cans last night so the new tax has obviously solved my binge drinking problem.
on 19 May, 2008 at 12:07 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
How many people said that this tax would just make things worse?

Turns out we were all right. Good on ya Kevin, think things through before pulling off stupid stunts like this. At the moment I'm ashamed to say I voted Labour.
on 19 May, 2008 at 12:11 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
mumandad, if your teenage kids have drinking problems i hardly think you can blame the government!

If you havent taught them responsible drinking by now (i'm assuming they are around 15-17) then an increase in the price of alcopops isnt going to make a lick of difference!
on 19 May, 2008 at 12:42 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Alcopops haha what a joke!! I have not been able to get over this one. I am 20 years of age and lived in Caloundra my entire life up until the last year or 2 and thats only because of work commitments. I am very proud to have been able to have spent such a long time in Caloundra and i do try my very hardest to get back there as much as possible.

The thing that gets me most about this joke for another excuse for tax revenue is one i have never heard of what they call alcopops, And two i know for a fact this is affecting not only middle aged workers and adults or any single person that likes to sit down and enjoy a quiet drink at the end of a very hard week of work.

I cant believe that they think it will affect kids and binge drinking issues as if it is binge drinking they wont care what it costs as it is a one of event. And if its kids thats why they work or some steal off their parents to get what they want and a little tax will not get in the way of that no matter what any one thinks.

This tax will affect alot more people other then kids and that is if it affects them at all. For me this is just a outrage, as it is the government already takes enough of my money for tax unless they are willing to give all of us a decent payrise to help with all these extra 'taxes' i believe it is time they sit down and have a hard think because they have definitely not thought about this one at all. I still stand by my vote and definitely wasnt Labour
on 19 May, 2008 at 12:43 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
all this talk about stopping teens from binge drinking....here's a novel idea...why dont we just police the laws we currently have???

The ministers themselves say that this is designed to make alcopops too expensive for 14-18year old girls to afford as this is their drink of choice. 14-18year olds arent allowed to drink, so why not enforce that? Sorry, is that being too simplistic?

Nightclubs are to refuse entry and service to intoxicated people. Why dont we police that? Once again is that too simple?

We dont need new laws, the existing ones are there but nobody is enforcing them.

For the record tho, im not anti drinking or anti clubbing....im well known for enjoying a party and having a good time out on the town, but even i am witnessing way too many people out of control now.
maybe i'm getting old!
on 19 May, 2008 at 12:55 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I don't read anywhere in mumandad's comments where they say the kids have a drinking problem always right.
on 19 May, 2008 at 1:05 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
This tax hike was never a solution and as evident by the comments above and talking with people it has simply made the situation worse. Stupid, stupid decision and one that should be reversed immediately!
How about our local politicians take yup the case.
on 19 May, 2008 at 1:52 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I will be surprised if this measure works. Already you can buy cheap cask wine which is not only cheaper, but has a higher alcohol content.
Why not offer an incentive, instead of the big stick approach, like lowering the tax on light or mid strength drinks, to encourage people to buy these instead?
on 19 May, 2008 at 2:01 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
i didnt say they did either nazdav, i said "IF" they had drinking problems....
on 19 May, 2008 at 2:28 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
always right this time you are wrong my kids dont have a drinking problem they are just like 80 per cent of the kids in their age group, look around and see for yourself they are all drinking.

Wake up there is a real problem in these young kids at the moment, and as for us teaching them responsible drinking I hate to tell you, but at this age they dont actually like to listen to much to their parents, so we are dammed if we do and dammed if we dont!
on 19 May, 2008 at 2:48 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
and the source of the problem?? "developers" no longer include the local corner pub and those corner pubs that are left are being bought by Coles and Woollies and "rationalised" ie closed - so that big central pubs get all the pokies and all the drinkers.

Local pubs used to be family run concerns where the owners knew their drinkers and their drinkers limits. Maybe its time to legislate for one pub per 200 houses so that the local can control their drinkers
on 19 May, 2008 at 3:04 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Prevention is the best cure, bring back the prohibition
on 19 May, 2008 at 3:23 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
But what about the Government's 3 Billion dollar Budget surplus ?
on 19 May, 2008 at 3:44 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
mumandad, so because your kids don't like to listen to you you stop telling them? you and i and most other adults learnt responsible drinking from our parents when we were that age. we may not have liked to listen to it but it was drilled into us and whether we knew it at the time or not it did sink in.

Why is it so different now? If you cant or wont do anything to stop your kids drinking then dont expect someone else to, especially the government.

I wasnt aiming a personal attack at you mumandad, i was simply trying to illustrate that parents are too quick to blame everyone else for the faults of their children, whether it be alcohol, violence or just general bad manners. A point that you have just backed up for me by saying "80 percent of the kids are drinking......wake up there is a real problem with these kids....they dont like to listen to us." I can't believe you are telling me to wake up. HELLO, THEY ARE YOUR KIDS!!!!

I dont think the alcopop tax will do anything to stop binge drinking, but i dont think it will make it worse either. Kids these days drink till they vomit or pass out. Whether its from pre-mixed cans or a bottle they mix themselves, whats the difference.

Parents need to take better control of their kids at a younger age and drill these sorts of issues into them before it becomes a problem.
on 19 May, 2008 at 3:52 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
This tax was never introduced to stop the problem of binge drinking as anyone with half a brain knows that it aint going to fix the problem, it was only introduced as a way of gaining more tax revenue under the title of helping a social issue so mr rudd would not been seen as the prime minister who promised tax cuts and then introduced more taxes. But really he was being ridiculous in his election promises, in order to keep a budget surplus while still fulfilling most of his election promises he had to get the money from somewhere so we shouldnt be too shocked at this.

And as for the binge drinking 'problem' i must say yes there is drinking amongst teens, but honestly, hasnt there always been. Every generation has had binge drinking 'issues' they have always been around. In this day and age they are just focused on and amplified more because of the constant media.

I hate how the news will always focus on the worst. They will always post an article with a headline like "1 out of 5 teens binge drink" and will never post the headline "4 out of 5 teens dont binge drink". my generation has flaws but every generation has.

As for the parents stopping them, of course you can stop them. This is not a damned if you do damned if you dont situation. you can always have control of what you child does and doesnt do if you stop being lazy and actually be a parent. At the end of the day if they want to be drunks raving on the streets at 3am, well eventually when they move out of your home they may do that anyway but while they are you kids you can stop them doing whatever you do not want them to do.
on 20 May, 2008 at 9:40 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
"vanga" from Caloundra, is there nothing developers do not get blamed for???
Whilst not being a developer I fail to see how they can control who what buys pubs. They can build them but it is the government and local council that approves them. Maybe government should quota liquor licenses so that 40% must be privately owned?
on 21 May, 2008 at 11:38 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
When I was a teeneager there were not many 'alco-pops' around. My friends and I would buy a bottle of vodka and share it. Instead of drinking 1.5 standard drinks in a can, we were drinking a lot more, a lot faster, and getting a much more intoxicated. I know that this is already happening to younger Australians now.

Now I am a mother and a student surviving on my husbands wage, I can no longer afford to buy my 6 pack of UDLs to enjoy over the weekend. Food and fuel are already so expensive what else has to go up?

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