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8:52AM Sunday 05 July, 2009

Electric fence no good, says council

Electric fence no good, says council

img/photos/2008/11/23/179515c.JPGdog.jpg500.jpg Yvonne Goldmann inside the small fenced enclosure she had to build for her dog Pepper despite having an electronic fencing system already in place. Photo: Michaela O'Neill / 179515

Yvonne Goldmann got the shock of her life when the council told her to remove the electric dog barrier she has installed on her Buderim property.

The council told Ms Goldmann in August that the barrier, a wire which discharges static if the dog passes over it, did not meet council’s regulations and would have to be replaced with a fence.

She has accused the council of being out-of-step with modern technology, after it threatened her with court action unless she complied.

“Council’s requirements are fairly conservative and don’t allow for alternatives that work 100%,” she said.

“I’m upset that council has been so stubborn and conservative about this.”

Ms Goldmann told the council the wire stopped her dog, a two-year-old munsterlander called Pepper, from leaving the property.

She said the collar Pepper wore beeped if he got near the wire and the dog was zapped with painless static if he attempted to leave the yard, which he never did.

The installation of the wire was coupled with a four-week training program that taught Pepper not to approach the wire.

Despite what Ms Goldmann regards as the fail-safe effectiveness of the $500 wire, she has had to spend more than $600 on a 1.2 metre high fence.

She said the council did not object to the wire, as long as the dog was also fenced in.

“Council has to be modern and recognise today’s technology,” she said.

“It can’t get stuck in the ’60s and ’70s.”

Janelle Parker, the council’s regulatory services branch manager, said the electric barrier and dog collar was not adequate enough.

“It is considered that this type of management system does not meet the object of the local law, which is to provide an enclosure to ensure that animals are kept and used in a way that is consistent with the rights and expectations of the local community,” she said.

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on 24 November, 2008 at 12:42 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
It is considered that...blah, blah, blah.

The question is does it work?
on 24 November, 2008 at 5:27 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Obviously some people at the council do not believe some animals are a hell of a lot smarter the we humans. Most animals who are trained properly and treated well rarely if ever forget that training and if part of that training causes them to back off from something that is unpleasant to them how can it be a bad thing.Take cows as an example, electric fencing has long been used on properties to control where they go. Would you a human continue to use a particular item that always when you touched it gave you a zap caused by static, I know I wouldn't. Same thing with dogs,cows,horses, etc. My moggy knows if he scratches my furniture he will get zapped by a spray of water, he never scratches my furniture now. Only we humans are silly enough to keep doing things that are bad for us.Wake up council and join the rest of us in a modern world..
on 24 November, 2008 at 7:24 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
And does it work in the event of a power failure?
on 24 November, 2008 at 8:10 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
They are very effective at keeping a dog in a restricted area, but useless at keeping other dogs out. What happens if the local wandering dog comes into the yard and starts fighting? I think the council's attitude is reasonable, and that these electronic controls are best used to keep a dog in a restricted area within the yard.
on 24 November, 2008 at 8:11 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
And does it work if the dog panics - due to fireworks or thunder/lightning ?
And does it work if junk or debris cover the 'barrier'.
on 24 November, 2008 at 8:18 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
This council told us 4-5 yrs ago to install this and there was a wait to get them then. Yes they do work. We looked at one that ran from a battery set up similar to a cattle electric fence in a paddock.
on 24 November, 2008 at 8:36 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
In the event of a power cut the training actually still works, as clever as they are, the dogs still can't work out when there has been a power cut and don't go near the fence because they have no idea that it is switched off
on 24 November, 2008 at 10:12 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
After reading through this interesting story, it's about time that the council came into the real world and changed its regulation which prevents this sort of fence being erected.
on 24 November, 2008 at 12:09 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Typical bureaucratic blindness and arrogance.
on 24 November, 2008 at 1:02 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
the law's the law - even for council by-laws.


she knew the law about fences so why whinge now?
on 24 November, 2008 at 7:15 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
The council has a written law ....NO FENCE, NO DOG. They never enforce this law. Too many dogs are roaming from unfenced properties. Yet they dare come down hard on one owner who at least is trying to do the right thing. Council health officers/dog control officers, whatever you calll these bunnies, are hypocrites !
on 24 November, 2008 at 9:57 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I disagree that "some animals are a hell of a lot smarter the(n) we humans" - nevertheless it does not address the issue. Are we aware that the race in question "munsterlander" is a largish German hunting dog - the size of a German Sheppard? Ms. Goldmann makes a statement "...don’t allow for alternatives that work 100%". Planes come crashing down the sky without human errors due to electrical failures. Or looking more closely, my dishwasher got zapped by an electric storm and blows the circuit board in recent weeks.
Ms. Goldmann lives in a residential area - see white pages - shouldn't we not been concerned about children in there streets, and as outlined above if a wondering dog get's into his perimeter - after all it is a hunting dog, or a cat crosses it’s line?!
There are reasons why our council have got rulings and in this instance to protect us citizen and especially small kids. This is not a puddle, or a pussy cat. Why do we need to be cruel and control animals with static discharge? Have you been zapped lately?
on 25 November, 2008 at 8:08 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Yes this does work. I have one, I don't even have to have it switched on or have the collar on the dog anymore, he will not go past the line. Dogs are smart when it comes to something that may hurt them.
Yes you can get battery backup for these fences but a dog doesn't know when the power is off and as my dog has proved he won't risk going near it on or off, collar or no collar.
on 25 November, 2008 at 5:10 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Well a good idea for keeping your dog in but does not stop the neighbours dog from wandering into your yard or for that matter the neighbours children. Fences are necessary to keep animals in as well as out.
The council are quite within their rights I'm afraid!!
on 25 November, 2008 at 7:04 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
it took pepper
a months training
to not get electrocuted
those munsterlanders
are a sharp breed

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