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Do you want daylight saving here?

Do you want daylight saving here?

Sixty-one per cent of respondents to a Sunshine Coast Daily survey this year indicated they were keen to see daylight saving introduced. Photo: Warren Lynam/177992

The beginning of daylight saving in most other parts of Australia this weekend has reignited the debate about whether Queensland should also be changing the time.

From 2am this Sunday, the clocks will go forward an hour in NSW, Victoria, the ACT, Tasmania and South Australia, while Western Australia will start daylight saving on the last Sunday in October.

Queensland and the Northern Territory are the only parts of the country that don’t observe the time change, but a group of Brisbane business people is planning to form a new political party to specifically push for a dual time zone for Queensland at next year’s state election.

Internal auditor Jason Furze said his party, Daylight Saving for South East Queensland, would give people the chance to vote on the issue for the first time since the referendum in 1992.

He claims Premier Anna Bligh was wrong when she ruled out daylight saving for the whole state last year, with state government polls in 2007 showing support for daylight saving had increased from 46% to 59% since the 1992 referendum.

Poll: Should we have daylight saving?

See the poll results.

Many had hoped that Ms Bligh would introduce a fresh vote on the issue when she became premier last year. However, she said that while there was a clear majority of people in favour of daylight saving statewide, there was only 36 per cent support for it outside the south-east corner.

Sixty-one per cent of respondents to a Sunshine Coast Daily survey earlier this year indicated that they weren’t worried about curtains fading or confused cows and were keen to see daylight saving introduced.

The result compared to the last Your Coast Your Say survey in early 2007, when 50% of respondents said they wanted it for either Queensland (32%) or south-east Queensland only (18%).

In response to whether Queensland should have daylight saving, Dr Helen Stowasser of Mapleton wrote “definitely” in capital letters on her form.

“The main reason is because the Sunshine Coast is in very close communication with the southern states and the difference in the time zones is really annoying,” the retiree said.

“It really upsets business and communication. I’ve got family living in New Zealand which means there is a three hour difference all through summer. That makes communication quite tricky and although I use email to communicate, it doesn’t solve all your problems.”

Numerous stories and blogs on this website have also canvassed opinions on the matter, with many readers indicating support for an extra hour of daylight in the evenings.

Would you like to see daylight saving introduced in Queensland, or at least South-East Queensland? Post a comment or vote in our poll to share your views.

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on 3 October, 2008 at 12:04 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Surfers unite...NO daylight savings.
Go to bed earlier and get up earlier you sleepy heads.
The local breaks along Maroochydore are crowded between 5.00 and 5.30 in summer. If we have daylight saving it will be crowded at sunrise. Sorry for being selfish but there is nothing better than the 'early' and nothing worse than the afternoon on-shore slop.
Play nine holes before work.
Take the kids for a surf or walk before school.
The higher latitudes don't need daylight savings.
on 3 October, 2008 at 12:19 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I couldn't agree with you more Phil!!

I moved here from Sydney in 1985 and was very vocal about introducing daylight savings in Queensland.

But then I lived through the trial daylight savings of the summer of 1991/92 and changed my mind completely... voting NO in 1992 referendum.

We had the trial... we had the vote... get over it!!!!
on 3 October, 2008 at 12:20 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I think Daylight Saving coming to Qld is inevitable with more and more mexicans crossing the border each day. This is sure to sway the results eventually.

As a Qlder born and bred I say keep your daylight saving. We have plenty of light after work in summer.

If businesses say their interstate trade is suffering then I am sure a responsible business owner would be open to the idea of starting an hour earlier each day.
on 3 October, 2008 at 12:38 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I see from your article that the NT is no longer part of Australia.

Ed. The story has now been corrected.
on 3 October, 2008 at 12:46 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Bring on Daylight savings! I have just come back from the UK summer where there daylight savings gives them enough light to read in the garden well into the evening (I came out of the Cinema at 10pm one night and could still see the sun setting in the distance)
How nice would it be to sit in our gardens in the evening without having to turn on a light!
on 3 October, 2008 at 12:47 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
daylight saving should have been introduced many years ago . this is supposed to be the smart state .at the moment we are still the backward state
on 3 October, 2008 at 1:17 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Study a map of Australia especially the longitudinal position of Cairns, Longreach and Mt Isa, based of this Queensland needs to divided into two time zones, Broken Hill and west NSW use SA time (UTC (9 hours 30 mins) and so should Qld based on 145 degrees E that is west of Longreach.

This is a practical change enabling a smooth transition when Daylight Savings is deployed in the is state
on 3 October, 2008 at 1:21 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
"Daylight Saving" is a lie.
DS does not save daylight.
DS people perpetuate the deceit.
They are arrogant to insist that only the afternoon daylight is important.
Why not be honest, and call it "clock fiddling" ?
on 3 October, 2008 at 1:24 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Phil, have you ever contemplated that if daylight savings was introduced more people would surf in the evenings leaving your precious mornings to yourself???

The argument against daylight savings by 'born and bred' queenslanders is the same stubborness that has left QLD behind the rest of the states in everything from business to infrastructure. Catch up with the times queenslanders or get left behind forever.
on 3 October, 2008 at 1:25 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I suppose it may be a good idea from a business point of view.Although if business really wanted to work within the time frame of the other states they could always start and finish an hour earlier.But from a general lifestyle point of view,if you want to enjoy the extra light hours just get up an hour earlier then usual.
Remember folks it is only the time on the clock that has been changed,not the actual daylight hours.
on 3 October, 2008 at 1:31 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Most Queenslanders work for a living and come home to either darkness in Winter or a setting sun in Summer . There is no useful evening Daylight all year but the summer mornings are like saunas . SEQ should have daylight saving all year. Surfers, like farmers , are a minority group. It should be majority rule on this issue . Most people would rather be asleep than surfing at 4.30 am . 800,000 people , including myself have been added to the electoral role since the 1992 referendum . We want to be able to vote on this issue . Vote for the Daylight Saving Party , no preferences to LNP or Labor , the collective powers of darkness .
on 3 October, 2008 at 1:32 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Robert of Buderim, if you look at it as if you are taking the hour of sunlight between 4am and 5am (which nobody uses because they are all asleep) and tack it on to the end of the day when everyone will use it......then it really is daylight saving.
on 3 October, 2008 at 2:24 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Always an interesting story, bring it on I say.
Seems there is an ever increasing majority supporting this now.

There are simply too many reasons why we should be adopting daylight savings.

If you have any serious doubt, please take the time to read some most informative articles at http://www.daylightsavingseq.com.au/

If Captain Bligh or the opposition isn’t game to show their support, then I can wait to see results from the next election.

I’m tipping a significant vote for the Daylight Saving Party.
on 3 October, 2008 at 2:39 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I whole heartedly agree with the view that stubborn Queenslanders most of whom have probably never left the state let alone travelled the world need to wake up. While I can understand some resentment of "mexicans" a "smart state" inhabitant would welcome new ideas which just might just be worth pursuing. As for farmers complaints they should remember they are not the only farmers in the world, farmers from many different countries work with DLS without an issue and have done so for several decades.
on 3 October, 2008 at 2:55 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I'm 100% with you Phil, as a cyclist the mornings are the best time to ride and I enjoy the daylight that summer mornings bring. I certainly dont want to be going to bed at 8.30 when its still light. I DONT want daylight savings. As an ex Victorian who has experienced daylight saving first hand I can say leave it in the southern states, we dont need it here.
And for your information alwaysright there is a good reason why people chose to surf in the mornings...its a case of the surf being better before the afternoon sea breeze comes in and makes it too choppy.
on 3 October, 2008 at 2:59 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Why dont we push for the southern states to ban daylight saving???
on 3 October, 2008 at 3:03 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
For those who seem to be confused by the concept, all DST is, is changing our (artificial) system of time, to be more in accordance with the NATURAL cycles of dawn and dusk. In nature, animals (which includes humans) naturally wake at daylight, unfortunately, in SEQ, which is more easterly than the majority of Australia, means that the sun rises at 4.30am. The point is also not that most of us have a choice whether to wake earlier, start work earlier etc; I certainly have virtually no control over what times the large company that employs me chooses to operate. And if most businesses did that, well, it would basically be daylight saving business time! In
addition, many activities are illegal before certain times, for example, noise making activities, such as power tools and lawn mowing are forbidden before 7am. I'm sure my neighbours would be quick to complain if I got up at 4.30 and started mowing my lawn! And the parochial argument that DST is being promoted by recent migrants is ludicrous; first, most of these only moved to Queensland AFTER 1992 - and in the ancient Referendum (for which many people were too young to vote), SEQ voted 62% YES for DST. Also, if DST is so terrible, why do people who have lived with it want it so badly? There is also a case for DST to reduce car accidents; accident rates are much higher in darkness than daylight. And for those wanting to exercise after work, it is much more pleasant, and safer, to exercise in daylight (as a woman, I won't exercise in the dark, for safety reasons). But in the long run, it comes down to lifestyle; whilst I do get up early, I would love more daylight in the evenings...but since my husband has bought a boat, he has stopped supporting DST, for the same reason as the surfers (less time before work).
on 3 October, 2008 at 3:08 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
With the availability of internet, mobile telephones, faxes etc...I don't see that business reasons is any major contributing factor to have dls in Qld. We do a lot of business with other states, including W.A. which has a significant time different all year round, during dls and it has no effect on us at all.

It's shown the UV aspect is negligible as is the heat factor.

Some energy savings is one aspect that is credible.

Traffic accidents?...the graphs and statistics are from America so until I saw graphs and stats from NSW and Victoria, showing a reasonable difference in traffic accidents, then that one doesn't wash with me either.
on 3 October, 2008 at 3:19 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
seems the airlines could force the hand, if tourism is of such importance to Qld.
How ?? well the ( say) 5 pm flight from Cairns will need to leave at 4 pm to be in Melbourne where its required by 8 pm, because its scheduled for a flight to Perth. Now if it has to wait until 5pm, its not going to get to melbourne until 9 pm. and that puts the entire scheduling of that jet out of whack. and this example is going to impact on flights all over australia, because queensland wont get with the programme - thats fine .. I have no problem with tht, but when it starts affecting the locals in cairns, ( who miss their 5 pm flight, because its now leaving at 4 pm) they should not complain because they dont like daylight saving , simple, have it your way but put up with the consequences ,, Simple ..
on 3 October, 2008 at 3:22 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Bring on daylight savings I say! There is nothing more enloyable in summer than having a BBQ with your mates with the sun setting around 8.00pm. After 5 years of living in Qld I really can't understand why the so called 'smart state' is so against implementing DLS? The other thing that is ridicoulous is when us shift workers are heading home at 4am and the sun is already up................
on 3 October, 2008 at 3:23 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
But the chooks will lay less eggs and the curtains will fade.

And what about the farmers? They already work from daylight til dark, and now you wont them to work longer!
on 3 October, 2008 at 3:29 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
This debate is no longer a matter of IF; It's a matter of WHEN...

It's only a matter of time before QLD (or at least SE QLD) gets DST. And I say bring it on! We need DST here, almost every other civilised country and state in the world has it, and we need it too. QLD, the smart state? More like the backward state...
on 3 October, 2008 at 3:51 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
what so we can have daylight at 4am instead of 5. i wake up when the sun comes up as it is. i have lived in nsw and qld and that is the reason i moved back to qld. i say if you want daylight savings move to another state that has it
PRESERVE QLD NOT HAVING IT PLEASE!!!!
on 3 October, 2008 at 3:51 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Maybe a lot of us 'locals' like not being 'up' with the southern states. That's a lot of the charm of living in Queensland as we're not the 'rat race' that a lot of areas in southern states have become.

If we're so backward and it's so hard living here then the question has to be asked...why are still here? Just love southerners that can't wait to get out and away from their home state to live in Queensland, then like to tell us what to do to make it more like the state they took off from.
on 3 October, 2008 at 3:55 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
In summer the sun rises well to the south of east, so everywhere in Queensland other than SEQ already has daylight saving by default because its all west of us. You don't have to go far west or even up the coast for being on daylight saving time to be a serious nuisance. It is only to be expected that means more to those Sunshine Coast residents whose roots are in Queensland than it does to others.
on 3 October, 2008 at 4:06 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Rumgirl08-I think you'll find the sun will rise later if you put the clocks forward one hour? ie the daylight will come at the end of the day and not at the start of the day like you are suggesting? so therefore the sun isn't up at 4am like you are suggesting but 5am instead.
on 3 October, 2008 at 5:12 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I was born and bred in Qld and have lived in both NSW and SA and I am all for daylight savings.I say bring it on.
on 3 October, 2008 at 5:29 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
an, er, interesting (albeit hilariously wrong) perspective on daylight saving from the Border Mail in Albury - "WHEN I was a kid we never had
drought after drought. Then we started with daylight saving. We started with a little bit, but now we have six months of the year daylight saving. It has just become too much for the environment to cope with. It is so logical, for six months of the year we have an extra hour each day of that hot afternoon sun. I read somewhere that scientific studies had shown there is a lot
less moisture in the atmosphere which means we get less rain. I believe this one hour extra sun is slowly evaporating all the moisture out of everything. Why can't the Government get the CSIRO to do studies on this, or better still, get rid of daylight savings. They have to do something
before it is too late." I left his name off, to save him embarrassment!
on 3 October, 2008 at 5:42 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I THINK IT IS STUPID TO BE HONEST....FIDDLING WITH CLOCKS DOES NOT MAKE THE SUN STAY UP FOR ANYMORE HOURS THAN IT NORMALLY WOULD.........
on 3 October, 2008 at 5:43 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
"If we're so backward and it's so hard living here then the question has to be asked...why are still here?"

JustThinking, doesn't that answer ever get old? I think the problem here is the die hard QLDers that feel threatened by the possibility of change. Well you all better start accepting it, because DST WILL come into effect sooner or later...
on 3 October, 2008 at 6:17 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
whats the big deal with other states trying to force DLS on to us there is no point in having it just because some silly people think it will give them more time by putting the time one hour foward dont they realise that with some work places they still go by there clocks not DLS time so why on earth would some stup people want it as for certain buisness that say it will damage them cause we dont have it i say what a load of hooey
on 3 October, 2008 at 6:20 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
alwaysright from maroochydore :there is no point is getting it as it will never happen it dont give you more time all it does is wind the clocks forward it dont give us more anything its just making a lot of headaches for a lot of buisness's
on 3 October, 2008 at 6:46 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Please people, unless you understand exactly what DSL is, then please refrain from passing your uninformed comment.
on 3 October, 2008 at 6:51 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I think DST disrupts the body clock....
in NSW every time we put our clock forwards or backwards for DST it takes a few weeks to get used to it.
About the Farmers I read in a gardening book that more types fruit and vegies are harvested in Autumn.
So the farmers would need extra daylight in autumn and winter when the sun sets at 4:30-5:30!

Why do we need extra sunlight when the sun is going to set late anyway, even without DST in NSW the sun still sets at 6:10 - 8:20 in summer/spring and then if DST were introduced in QLD in summer/ spring sunset would be at 8:30-10:30 totally messing up the body clock as people would go to sleep way later than usual and wake up late.

plenty of sunlight in spring/summer not so much in winter/autumn

But I think DST might be OK for very SEQ, maybe
on 3 October, 2008 at 8:10 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I have lived in UKs,long summer nights and NSWdaylight saving,and we do not need it.
Why should people from other areas not accept what the locals are happy with?They come here from other countries and other states and seem to forget why they came in the first place.
on 3 October, 2008 at 8:13 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Yes.
on 3 October, 2008 at 8:18 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
When we lived in NZ, during daylight saving months, my husband had that extra time after work to spend quality-time with our kids - he took them down the beach, played tennis, went for long evening walks etc. When we moved to Sunshine Coast he came home from work and the kids were sitting in front of the TV - it was such a loss of precious time. Weekends are not always long enough - give the working families back some quality time.
on 3 October, 2008 at 8:46 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Yeah it will come into effect sooner or later.
because business rules the world...

I'm used to DST as I'm from Germany and sure it's nice in some ways... but having lived in QLD for a while I must say I would rather prefer no DST.

The truth is there is no 'saving'.
Wether its effects are good or not, DST simply means playing with our biological clock. Some of us can cope easily with it and some can't.
But we forget that this inner clock is the most important for our health. And we're risking this whatfor ? For ONE hour.

DST is nonsense as it has been researched. Wait until they find out the long term consequences.
This 'saving' is just another word for trying to rule over time.


Mates stay reasonable, stuff DST.
on 3 October, 2008 at 8:49 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
the only person who named qld the smart state was peter beattie.
so don't blame us for his stupid slogan.
the only solution to this problem is to have a vote.
and hope it gets a no again.
as alot have already said, if you want it move were it is already simple.
on 3 October, 2008 at 9:01 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I would love to have daylight saving esp in Sth east qld. Its great!
on 3 October, 2008 at 9:57 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
*yawn* any discussion about DST just shows who's a local and who's a blown in.
on 3 October, 2008 at 11:14 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Check your latitudes, longditudes and sunrise/set times before you advocate DST. This is not England, NZ or Victoria where twilight lasts for extended periods.
on 4 October, 2008 at 10:30 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
We must be the smart state because without DLS we are looking after the environment by getting up at 5am when the sun is up to go to work instead of 4am. With DLS we don't need to turn the lights on, so we don't produce more CO2, so we doing our part to save the planet.
on 4 October, 2008 at 10:54 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
You're right localgirl from Caloundra West. There's nothing smart about Queensland and that's the way we like it.
on 4 October, 2008 at 1:07 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Daylight Savings actually saves energy. It has been shown to reduce energy consumption, so it has been extended in other countries by a month on either side.
If people surf at dawn, they will be there at dawn, Phil.
I grew up loving the extra daylight we got to dinner picnic, stay at the beach, exercise after work, walk the dog, etc, etc.
on 4 October, 2008 at 5:17 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
The benefits of daylight saving are so self obvious and the objections so obscure that I do not understand the passion the subject arouses. And while State politicians claim they have more important issues to prioritise why are current and former labour leaders so firmly set against it?
I must admit that amonst the older queenslander I meet around the bowls and RSL clubs there is no appetite for change but little in the way of solid grounds for objection. I only hear about farmers up north and something about milking cows. Funny enough I remember just the same thing many years ago in the UK when daylight saving was being review and the main objection seem to be was the time farmers in Scotland had to get up!
Well there is very little I miss about the UK but long summer days is one of them. How nice to get home from work in the evening and still be able to play a round of golf or go for a stroll while it is still light. Maybe eat out, have a drink and all those other nice things you can do with the extra daylight pushed to the end of the day rather than wasted at the beginning.
on 4 October, 2008 at 7:16 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
China has nearly 1.5 billion people, no daylight saving and guess what? They just have the 1 timezone! Go figure.
All countries in Europe, except Iceland, observe daylight saving, starting and stoppng on the same days.
Most people would agree that the mood of the general population in SE QLD has changed since the last referendum. So, what is wrong with keeping in touch with the people and having another referendum now?
If enough people are serious about this, and the current polling indicates that; then I think The Daily should be instrumental in organising an e-Petition - just head on over to: http://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/view/EP...
on 4 October, 2008 at 7:54 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Life's too fast and furious as it is without having extra daylight after you finish work. I couldn't think of anything worse than being pressured by your mates to have a round of golf after a hard days work or worse still having to take the kids to the beach or park. Kids get enough attention as it is. Without daylight savings its dark when you get home from work and you can get to relax in front of the tv with a few beers while you're waiting for the wife to cook the tea. I don't have any problem sleeping through the daylight at 4:30 in the morning. This is Queensland Mate, No Daylight Saving.
on 4 October, 2008 at 8:24 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
If you think about it, the arguement to support day light savings is crap. Yes you might have one less hour of turning the lights on because it is still light and we go to bed earlier, but that one more hour of light means one more hour of driving our cars. Most driving is done in daylight hours. So really you are substuting on evil for another.... so it becomes a case of the lesser of 2 evils. I say leave it the way it is. I enjoy getting up at 5.30 and taking my dogs for a walk before I start work at 7 o'clock. And Pongi if your husband really wanted more quality time with your kids then he should spend it with them in the extra hour of daylight that we have in the morning. Now there's a solution.
on 4 October, 2008 at 9:47 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I would love DS. The birds are now wakeing me at 4:50AM and it's starting to get daylight. An hour forward would be great ! It would also be benificial for interstate phone calls, and we would be all on the same time zone...common sense! and calls to the "Zooland" they would be only 2:00 HRS ahead instead of 3:00 HRS, where I have relitives. I WILL BE VOTEING for the "DAY LIGHT SAVING PARTY" !!! The "JOH BE JESUS" Dictatorship is still alive and well with you Anna .....GET REAL Anna... and give the people what thy are asking for...
on 5 October, 2008 at 7:25 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Periodically we are asked to turn off our lights for the sake of global warming - it is therefore logical that we should have daylight saving throughout the world and we should let Anna Bligh know that Queensland should not be exempt from doing the right thing !
on 5 October, 2008 at 8:27 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
All you southerners who want to bring your day light savings to us in queensland should move back south and leave us be.
on 5 October, 2008 at 11:58 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I am not a southerner and I can not see why the so called "smart state" does not fall in line with all the other states AND most countries of the world which have daylight saving.It makes more sense to be on/in the same time zone, as the east coast of Australia, then it does to only be so for six months of the year.
on 5 October, 2008 at 2:35 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Bring on daylight savings! So we can spend more time outdoors after school and work with our family and friends. The morning is too rushed to be able to enjoy the daylight that some early birds like.
on 5 October, 2008 at 3:41 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
To me, this argument no longer seems to be about DST... It seems to now be about narrow minded old timers and traditionalists who feel threatened by the prospect of change. People, get yours heads out of the sand and recognise that the vast majority of people (probably including yourselves!) will experience an improvement in their lives with DST, it will benefit almost everyone (In SE QLD at the very least)!
on 5 October, 2008 at 4:36 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
And just how would my life improve with DLS jdt1986? I get up early and ride my bike or walk my dog before work, I love the light early mornings preferring it to the warm evenings. As I rise early I need to go to bed early and find it difficult to sleep when its not quite dark or there are people out and about making a noise.
Before you shoot me down in flames, I am an ex Victorian, DLS is fine for the southern states but not for Queensland.
on 5 October, 2008 at 7:57 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
YAWWWNNN, every year the same old debate every year the same old answers, everybody moves here for the lifestyle yet they want to bring what they got away from, hey people when in ROME!!!!!!!!!
on 5 October, 2008 at 8:45 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Just imagine if large amounts of Queenslanders moved south and demanded the end of daylight saving for the area we moved to................. you moved here for a reason, just be content with that. I lived out west last time they trialled DLS and the sun didn't go down until 10 - 10:30 hopeless for families with young children!! As for having DLS for SE Qld, we are one state, keep it that way.
on 6 October, 2008 at 9:55 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Of course they should bring in daylight savings. Nowhere in the world does the sun go down in summer earlier than here. We are truly the backward state. Makes absolutely no sense to not have it this time of year and most politicians are hopelessly out of touch with the people. We did a survey at our workplace and an overwhelming majority 95/124 (77%) said bring it in. I'm sure a referendum would have similar stats.
on 6 October, 2008 at 10:16 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I was a primary school student during the trial of Daylight saving and it was the worst summer of my youth. It was extra hot when walking home from school, the house was like a sauna, we were too hot and bothered to play, by the time it had cooled down enough it was time for dinner and getting to sleep was more difficult. To introduce it today would hinder my husbands joy of surfing before work and make getting my young children to bed early a real task. DLS is not going to suit the QLD lifestyle that the southerners moved here to enjoy. If there are 800000 more since the last trial, then have another trial - they will change their minds.
on 6 October, 2008 at 10:51 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
dowhatjohn has the new number plate slogan, Queensland, the dumb state - the way we like it.
on 6 October, 2008 at 12:33 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I don't find labelling a state on the basis of differences of opinion on the dls issue particularly intelligent? Or did all the dls supporting southerners move up here purely on the basis they believed we would bring in dls just because they say they want it? If the way nature rises and falls the sun during summer time is such an issue that makes their life so miserable....then perhaps that's something they should've thought of before moving to the Sunshine State.
on 6 October, 2008 at 1:03 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Palmwoodsmum... good to hear from you.

I think your point is one that most people ignore.

As I said way up there ^^^^... those of us unfortunate enough to live through the DLS trial back in 1991/92 are well aware of the difficulties imposed on us at that time.

I was very vocal about the benefits of daylight saving until living through the trial... then I voted "NO WAY" at the 1992 referendum.

If we must suffer through another trial to convince the "newcomers" that daylight saving in Queensland is horriffic, then so be it.

They will soon vote NO!!
on 6 October, 2008 at 1:40 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Yawn. This old argument always brings out the whingers. Vote on it...with your feet. If it's so important to people to get in an extra hour of leisure time, do it in the morning. If you need a clock to say a different thing to be able to manage that...well. Doh. Yes it might be becoming the Dumb State, we have all the whingers moving here.
on 6 October, 2008 at 3:03 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Goodness what a heated debate (sorry – couldn’t help the pun). I see a number of commentators appear to have resorted to the desperate strategy of slandering anyone who doesn’t share their enlightened (there I go again!) opinions re the pros/cons of DST. I thought I may just share a personal experience, with the preamble that I am more than willing to tolerate the idea that others may hold a valid, or even sensible personal opinion contrary to my own, without necessarily being “dumb” or afflicted by any other negative characteristics. As per a previous commentator, I also went into last decade’s DST ‘trial’ with a bias in favour of DST. That was until, as a reasonably intelligent person who happened to be born in Queensland, I experienced DST Queensland-style first hand, and subsequently voted against it’s implementation in the referendum. Having been a regular visitor to the Southern states, I wholeheartedly appreciate the benefits of DST there: with their anemic sunlight and less extreme temperatures, the romantic imagery conjured up by some of lingering BBQ’s with friends, fine wine on a balcony and health-rejuvenating long walks certainly appeal. However, just as individuals may be diverse in their perceptions and opinions without necessarily being “wrong”, geographical areas of this unique country also demonstrate great diversity without necessarily needing “fixing”. DST Queensland-style, in my humble opinion, equaled infernally hot afternoons, with the blazing sun and relentless heat dragging on till the last beads of sweat could be wiped from the brow at around 8pm. Hot dinners, let alone BBQ’s were out of the question, and wine tends to sour in the heat. A long ‘afternoon’ walk was pure torture any time prior to about 7 pm. Anyone wishing to experience the realities of DST in the Queensland summer could be invited to go for a brisk walk at 2pm in our upcoming summer sun (this is what you will be asking many school children to do); perhaps followed up with a ‘refreshing’ jog between the current applicable hours of 4 – 5 pm; and after all this, try getting young children to eat and sleep when their activity level during lengthier exposure to our searingly hot sun in the afternoon has raised their core body temperature to almost feverish levels. Currently our extremes of light and heat in the Queensland summer sit at both ends of the day. For my vote, I would rather experience a balance of those extremes during in the morning and afternoon, rather than ‘saving’ it all up to blast us throughout the evening, with the unpleasant effects of lengthier after-school/work exposure to high heat still evident, well into the night.
on 6 October, 2008 at 8:04 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
All the DSTers are asking is that a vote be taken on the issue and acted upon.

It seems the main point of disagreement is that self proclaimed locals believe things can't get any better, the interlopers believe it could be.

What a pity if housing unaffordability and unavailability, underemployment, poor literacy and incompetent government and the non DST is as good as it gets.....
on 7 October, 2008 at 12:16 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I was under the impression that most of Australia's housing affordability was a problem...not just Queensland.

For those of us, in any state, who have enough respect and good manners to listen enough at school to get decent or great jobs, literacy isn't a problem. Unemployment?...why do I continually see businesses having to put signs up outside their premises to get staff? I've lived here nearly all my life and never been without a job because I actually went out and looked for one. Incompetent Government...as compered to where, New South Wales *smirk*.

Beggars belief why anyone would stay in a State they believe to be so illiterate, unaffordable and incompetetent....ohh, and too hot in summer.
on 7 October, 2008 at 8:43 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
There are two issues....First a supposed financial advantage...With whizz bang stuff like fax and email you can work at whatever time you wish...so that is a furphy. In the 70's I adjusted my work times to suit my life not the clock....why can't the rest of the 'working' class?
Second ...what insanity is it arguing about a time on a clock...an artificial measurement. Why fiddle with such a measurement when it is so possible to change your working time to suit the weather...The building trade and outdoor workers = farmers have been doing it for ages.
I can only assume that 'business' people are either extraordinarily dumb or completely inflexible.

Also if you have lived through hot northern summers, and you have kids to try to get to sleep...you really don't want any extended heat ...the argument for NO is against extra heat...not extra sun.

Cooking dinner at 8pm when the kitchen has finally cooled down and you feel like eating is not helpful...unless of course you want to live with artificial coolers in your house as well as artificial time...Lets stay REAL in Queensland and lead the way for sanity
on 7 October, 2008 at 9:18 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I WAS reading a good novel, but this is much more entertaining, splashed with lots of humour!
I was also here in the trial back then and had three very young children at the time. I actually liked it and I had no trouble getting the children to bed at night. I also LOVED how they didn't get up at 4.30 am as they did for years in the summer months in the following years. I have been disagreeing for the last 20 or so years with neighbours, workmates and friends about DLS and I will always hope it comes here and I know they will always hope it doesn't. Therefore I am not mentioning ever again! (Until next year).
on 7 October, 2008 at 1:58 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I say no to daylight savings.
I have lived 18 years without and it hasn't affected me one bit.
We don't need it at all and as some people have already said if you want more hours of sun in your day, GET UP EARLIER!!
on 7 October, 2008 at 3:33 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
If Queensland doesn't see eye to eye on issues with other states we are said to be "living in the dark ages", "lagging behind" or "rednecks". We don't have to be followers, let's be leaders. I have lived in Qld all my life and wouldn't live anywhere else for quids. I can only remember the negative side of DST when it was in place in the late 80's. For example waiting on a street corner in the dark each morning for a lift to Uni (in Brisbane) and taking school children for their Phys Ed lesson at say 2pm, which was really 1pm. Yes, I remember those poor kids sitting on a plexi-pave tennis court in the shade of a brick wall, unable to participate because of the stifling heat at that time of day. It was a complete waste of time. Leave nature's clock alone. If DST is re-introduced I for one will not be changing anything...
on 7 October, 2008 at 5:07 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
squirt, what time were you going to uni if you're waiting in the dark? under DLS, sun would be up by 5.30... As for phys ed classes, there's precious little difference between 1 and 2pm in the middle of summer.

i lived thru the 91-92 trial. i'm fine, well adjusted. employed. paying tax. the works.
on 7 October, 2008 at 9:11 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
It might be completely dumb and stupid not to adopt daylight savings time. But that's not the point. The point is that this is Queensland and we do things our way whether its stupid or not. If you southerner's don't like it you can go back to where you came from and enjoy your barbecues after work and take your kids to the beach. We're quite happy watching the TV in the dark with a few beers.
on 8 October, 2008 at 5:56 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Sorry, I said I wouln't say anymore, but comments like Ellah's make it hard not to. The "get up early" bit makes me frustrated and throw my hands up in disbelief! I have to admit though, it does give me a good laugh! Some people just don't get it!
on 8 October, 2008 at 7:27 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
well said squirt

paul keating was once called the greatest follower this country has ever had. all of these dsters are doing what he did - follow the heard
on 8 October, 2008 at 1:48 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
So, let me get this right.... Tasmania sets it's clocks forward. Then one sentence later Tasmania doesn't observe the time change.
Sounds like they're even more confused than us Queenslanders...

Here's a novel idea as stated my many others. Why don't the 58% of "respondents" (according to the latest poll) just get up an hour early? Much easier than 100% of Queensland changing their clocks at 2am on the same morning and having 28% of the Qlders "left in the dark" and 12% uncertain whether or not they're in South East Queensland.

So that's 98%, what happened to the other 2% of the "respondents". I know the fine print states the poll "is not scientific", but surely you could include all 100% of the data!

For the record, Qld & NT are the only 2 that "do not observe" DST. And WA is on its 3rd year of a 3 year trial.

Ed: Thanks for pointing out the error in the story. You will see it's now been corrected.
on 8 October, 2008 at 8:20 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Further to xdrugfreex's comment.... if and when more than 50% of our community want legalised pot our government will look hard at the idea. Political expediency dictates that a polly needs to stay on the gravy train.
But..I still prefer getting up earlier in summer with the kids and making full use of the day.
This morning there were many more poeple using the walking/bike path and beach than traffic on Alex Pde. Give it a go. Get up earlier. Get the kids and come on down.
Oh and we were there (again) for Wed PM nippers board training. Thanks Mark and Neil for coaching and volunteering.
And thanks to Maleny_Mum (6-10..3.03pm) for incitfull thoughts.
The only thing I missed was the smart barbie and "high quality bottle of wine" to quote a famous local.
on 9 October, 2008 at 8:45 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I guess the many people who like, and choose, to get up earlier to enjoy the daylight don't count?

What's not to get? You get up, get dressed, walk out the door and enjoy the cooler time of the day for walking, exercise, swimming, gardening etc.
on 9 October, 2008 at 11:38 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Most residents on the Sunshine Coast want Daylight Saving . All the local Members of the Queensland Parliament are against it . They were elected to express the views of the majority of their constituents but instead are contemptuously ignoring them and following their own personal and party agenda . This is an abrogation of Democracy . The Daylight Saving Party now gives voters a choice and I look forward to seeing all our local MLAs lose their seats in the next election . Most people can stand neither Bligh nor Borg and want an alternative goverment .
on 9 October, 2008 at 10:05 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Phil from Mountain Creek . We Queenslanders pride ourselves on our lifestyle interests and sports . Let us all have a long hard look at what appears to be a majority considering Daylight Saving . I for one dont want it , I have considered it myself and Its not for me . I have an outdoor job thats starts early in the morning and in the dark through parts of the year . I do not want to start in the dark all year round . Why not ask your employer if you could start work earlier to get more out of your day and leave the clock alone. Anyone who votes in favour of it should realise this , those weekend sleep ins will be gone . The reason they want to wind the clocks forward is to make it legal to make noise when the sun is rising. Knowbody likes to be woken up by noise at first light , but in the interest of making a point against daylight saving . I will be mowing , whipper snipping , blowing and anything else I need to do at 7.00am on Saturdays from then on (not 8.00am anymore) thats just one example . Dont think for a moment that daylight saving only affects you on weekdays , it will be everyday.
on 11 October, 2008 at 11:54 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I believe the majority of born and bred Queenslanders don't give a damn about daylight saving.I think the ones who come here and start their whinging,are the same ones who whinge wherever they are,and complain that if you don't agree with them you are a redneck/oldfashioned/out of touch/etc
All I can say -is-Get over it -or get out!!

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