11:22a.m. 3rd October 2008
Sixty-one per cent of respondents to a Sunshine Coast Daily survey this year indicated they were keen to see daylight saving introduced. Photo: Warren Lynam/177992
The beginning of daylight saving in most other parts of Australia this weekend has reignited the debate about whether Queensland should also be changing the time.
From 2am this Sunday, the clocks will go forward an hour in NSW, Victoria, the ACT, Tasmania and South Australia, while Western Australia will start daylight saving on the last Sunday in October.
Queensland and the Northern Territory are the only parts of the country that don’t observe the time change, but a group of Brisbane business people is planning to form a new political party to specifically push for a dual time zone for Queensland at next year’s state election.
Internal auditor Jason Furze said his party, Daylight Saving for South East Queensland, would give people the chance to vote on the issue for the first time since the referendum in 1992.
He claims Premier Anna Bligh was wrong when she ruled out daylight saving for the whole state last year, with state government polls in 2007 showing support for daylight saving had increased from 46% to 59% since the 1992 referendum.
Many had hoped that Ms Bligh would introduce a fresh vote on the issue when she became premier last year. However, she said that while there was a clear majority of people in favour of daylight saving statewide, there was only 36 per cent support for it outside the south-east corner.
Sixty-one per cent of respondents to a Sunshine Coast Daily survey earlier this year indicated that they weren’t worried about curtains fading or confused cows and were keen to see daylight saving introduced.
The result compared to the last Your Coast Your Say survey in early 2007, when 50% of respondents said they wanted it for either Queensland (32%) or south-east Queensland only (18%).
In response to whether Queensland should have daylight saving, Dr Helen Stowasser of Mapleton wrote “definitely” in capital letters on her form.
“The main reason is because the Sunshine Coast is in very close communication with the southern states and the difference in the time zones is really annoying,” the retiree said.
“It really upsets business and communication. I’ve got family living in New Zealand which means there is a three hour difference all through summer. That makes communication quite tricky and although I use email to communicate, it doesn’t solve all your problems.”
Numerous stories and blogs on this website have also canvassed opinions on the matter, with many readers indicating support for an extra hour of daylight in the evenings.
Would you like to see daylight saving introduced in Queensland, or at least South-East Queensland? Post a comment or vote in our poll to share your views.
Recent Comments
Go to bed earlier and get up earlier you sleepy heads.
The local breaks along Maroochydore are crowded between 5.00 and 5.30 in summer. If we have daylight saving it will be crowded at sunrise. Sorry for being selfish but there is nothing better than the 'early' and nothing worse than the afternoon on-shore slop.
Play nine holes before work.
Take the kids for a surf or walk before school.
The higher latitudes don't need daylight savings.
I moved here from Sydney in 1985 and was very vocal about introducing daylight savings in Queensland.
But then I lived through the trial daylight savings of the summer of 1991/92 and changed my mind completely... voting NO in 1992 referendum.
We had the trial... we had the vote... get over it!!!!
As a Qlder born and bred I say keep your daylight saving. We have plenty of light after work in summer.
If businesses say their interstate trade is suffering then I am sure a responsible business owner would be open to the idea of starting an hour earlier each day.
Ed. The story has now been corrected.
How nice would it be to sit in our gardens in the evening without having to turn on a light!
This is a practical change enabling a smooth transition when Daylight Savings is deployed in the is state
DS does not save daylight.
DS people perpetuate the deceit.
They are arrogant to insist that only the afternoon daylight is important.
Why not be honest, and call it "clock fiddling" ?
The argument against daylight savings by 'born and bred' queenslanders is the same stubborness that has left QLD behind the rest of the states in everything from business to infrastructure. Catch up with the times queenslanders or get left behind forever.
Remember folks it is only the time on the clock that has been changed,not the actual daylight hours.
Seems there is an ever increasing majority supporting this now.
There are simply too many reasons why we should be adopting daylight savings.
If you have any serious doubt, please take the time to read some most informative articles at http://www.daylightsavingseq.com.au/
If Captain Bligh or the opposition isn’t game to show their support, then I can wait to see results from the next election.
I’m tipping a significant vote for the Daylight Saving Party.
And for your information alwaysright there is a good reason why people chose to surf in the mornings...its a case of the surf being better before the afternoon sea breeze comes in and makes it too choppy.
addition, many activities are illegal before certain times, for example, noise making activities, such as power tools and lawn mowing are forbidden before 7am. I'm sure my neighbours would be quick to complain if I got up at 4.30 and started mowing my lawn! And the parochial argument that DST is being promoted by recent migrants is ludicrous; first, most of these only moved to Queensland AFTER 1992 - and in the ancient Referendum (for which many people were too young to vote), SEQ voted 62% YES for DST. Also, if DST is so terrible, why do people who have lived with it want it so badly? There is also a case for DST to reduce car accidents; accident rates are much higher in darkness than daylight. And for those wanting to exercise after work, it is much more pleasant, and safer, to exercise in daylight (as a woman, I won't exercise in the dark, for safety reasons). But in the long run, it comes down to lifestyle; whilst I do get up early, I would love more daylight in the evenings...but since my husband has bought a boat, he has stopped supporting DST, for the same reason as the surfers (less time before work).
It's shown the UV aspect is negligible as is the heat factor.
Some energy savings is one aspect that is credible.
Traffic accidents?...the graphs and statistics are from America so until I saw graphs and stats from NSW and Victoria, showing a reasonable difference in traffic accidents, then that one doesn't wash with me either.
How ?? well the ( say) 5 pm flight from Cairns will need to leave at 4 pm to be in Melbourne where its required by 8 pm, because its scheduled for a flight to Perth. Now if it has to wait until 5pm, its not going to get to melbourne until 9 pm. and that puts the entire scheduling of that jet out of whack. and this example is going to impact on flights all over australia, because queensland wont get with the programme - thats fine .. I have no problem with tht, but when it starts affecting the locals in cairns, ( who miss their 5 pm flight, because its now leaving at 4 pm) they should not complain because they dont like daylight saving , simple, have it your way but put up with the consequences ,, Simple ..
And what about the farmers? They already work from daylight til dark, and now you wont them to work longer!
It's only a matter of time before QLD (or at least SE QLD) gets DST. And I say bring it on! We need DST here, almost every other civilised country and state in the world has it, and we need it too. QLD, the smart state? More like the backward state...
PRESERVE QLD NOT HAVING IT PLEASE!!!!
If we're so backward and it's so hard living here then the question has to be asked...why are still here? Just love southerners that can't wait to get out and away from their home state to live in Queensland, then like to tell us what to do to make it more like the state they took off from.
drought after drought. Then we started with daylight saving. We started with a little bit, but now we have six months of the year daylight saving. It has just become too much for the environment to cope with. It is so logical, for six months of the year we have an extra hour each day of that hot afternoon sun. I read somewhere that scientific studies had shown there is a lot
less moisture in the atmosphere which means we get less rain. I believe this one hour extra sun is slowly evaporating all the moisture out of everything. Why can't the Government get the CSIRO to do studies on this, or better still, get rid of daylight savings. They have to do something
before it is too late." I left his name off, to save him embarrassment!
JustThinking, doesn't that answer ever get old? I think the problem here is the die hard QLDers that feel threatened by the possibility of change. Well you all better start accepting it, because DST WILL come into effect sooner or later...
in NSW every time we put our clock forwards or backwards for DST it takes a few weeks to get used to it.
About the Farmers I read in a gardening book that more types fruit and vegies are harvested in Autumn.
So the farmers would need extra daylight in autumn and winter when the sun sets at 4:30-5:30!
Why do we need extra sunlight when the sun is going to set late anyway, even without DST in NSW the sun still sets at 6:10 - 8:20 in summer/spring and then if DST were introduced in QLD in summer/ spring sunset would be at 8:30-10:30 totally messing up the body clock as people would go to sleep way later than usual and wake up late.
plenty of sunlight in spring/summer not so much in winter/autumn
But I think DST might be OK for very SEQ, maybe
Why should people from other areas not accept what the locals are happy with?They come here from other countries and other states and seem to forget why they came in the first place.
because business rules the world...
I'm used to DST as I'm from Germany and sure it's nice in some ways... but having lived in QLD for a while I must say I would rather prefer no DST.
The truth is there is no 'saving'.
Wether its effects are good or not, DST simply means playing with our biological clock. Some of us can cope easily with it and some can't.
But we forget that this inner clock is the most important for our health. And we're risking this whatfor ? For ONE hour.
DST is nonsense as it has been researched. Wait until they find out the long term consequences.
This 'saving' is just another word for trying to rule over time.
Mates stay reasonable, stuff DST.
so don't blame us for his stupid slogan.
the only solution to this problem is to have a vote.
and hope it gets a no again.
as alot have already said, if you want it move were it is already simple.
If people surf at dawn, they will be there at dawn, Phil.
I grew up loving the extra daylight we got to dinner picnic, stay at the beach, exercise after work, walk the dog, etc, etc.
I must admit that amonst the older queenslander I meet around the bowls and RSL clubs there is no appetite for change but little in the way of solid grounds for objection. I only hear about farmers up north and something about milking cows. Funny enough I remember just the same thing many years ago in the UK when daylight saving was being review and the main objection seem to be was the time farmers in Scotland had to get up!
Well there is very little I miss about the UK but long summer days is one of them. How nice to get home from work in the evening and still be able to play a round of golf or go for a stroll while it is still light. Maybe eat out, have a drink and all those other nice things you can do with the extra daylight pushed to the end of the day rather than wasted at the beginning.
All countries in Europe, except Iceland, observe daylight saving, starting and stoppng on the same days.
Most people would agree that the mood of the general population in SE QLD has changed since the last referendum. So, what is wrong with keeping in touch with the people and having another referendum now?
If enough people are serious about this, and the current polling indicates that; then I think The Daily should be instrumental in organising an e-Petition - just head on over to: http://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/view/EP...
Before you shoot me down in flames, I am an ex Victorian, DLS is fine for the southern states but not for Queensland.
I think your point is one that most people ignore.
As I said way up there ^^^^... those of us unfortunate enough to live through the DLS trial back in 1991/92 are well aware of the difficulties imposed on us at that time.
I was very vocal about the benefits of daylight saving until living through the trial... then I voted "NO WAY" at the 1992 referendum.
If we must suffer through another trial to convince the "newcomers" that daylight saving in Queensland is horriffic, then so be it.
They will soon vote NO!!
It seems the main point of disagreement is that self proclaimed locals believe things can't get any better, the interlopers believe it could be.
What a pity if housing unaffordability and unavailability, underemployment, poor literacy and incompetent government and the non DST is as good as it gets.....
For those of us, in any state, who have enough respect and good manners to listen enough at school to get decent or great jobs, literacy isn't a problem. Unemployment?...why do I continually see businesses having to put signs up outside their premises to get staff? I've lived here nearly all my life and never been without a job because I actually went out and looked for one. Incompetent Government...as compered to where, New South Wales *smirk*.
Beggars belief why anyone would stay in a State they believe to be so illiterate, unaffordable and incompetetent....ohh, and too hot in summer.
Second ...what insanity is it arguing about a time on a clock...an artificial measurement. Why fiddle with such a measurement when it is so possible to change your working time to suit the weather...The building trade and outdoor workers = farmers have been doing it for ages.
I can only assume that 'business' people are either extraordinarily dumb or completely inflexible.
Also if you have lived through hot northern summers, and you have kids to try to get to sleep...you really don't want any extended heat ...the argument for NO is against extra heat...not extra sun.
Cooking dinner at 8pm when the kitchen has finally cooled down and you feel like eating is not helpful...unless of course you want to live with artificial coolers in your house as well as artificial time...Lets stay REAL in Queensland and lead the way for sanity
I was also here in the trial back then and had three very young children at the time. I actually liked it and I had no trouble getting the children to bed at night. I also LOVED how they didn't get up at 4.30 am as they did for years in the summer months in the following years. I have been disagreeing for the last 20 or so years with neighbours, workmates and friends about DLS and I will always hope it comes here and I know they will always hope it doesn't. Therefore I am not mentioning ever again! (Until next year).
I have lived 18 years without and it hasn't affected me one bit.
We don't need it at all and as some people have already said if you want more hours of sun in your day, GET UP EARLIER!!
i lived thru the 91-92 trial. i'm fine, well adjusted. employed. paying tax. the works.
paul keating was once called the greatest follower this country has ever had. all of these dsters are doing what he did - follow the heard
Sounds like they're even more confused than us Queenslanders...
Here's a novel idea as stated my many others. Why don't the 58% of "respondents" (according to the latest poll) just get up an hour early? Much easier than 100% of Queensland changing their clocks at 2am on the same morning and having 28% of the Qlders "left in the dark" and 12% uncertain whether or not they're in South East Queensland.
So that's 98%, what happened to the other 2% of the "respondents". I know the fine print states the poll "is not scientific", but surely you could include all 100% of the data!
For the record, Qld & NT are the only 2 that "do not observe" DST. And WA is on its 3rd year of a 3 year trial.
Ed: Thanks for pointing out the error in the story. You will see it's now been corrected.
But..I still prefer getting up earlier in summer with the kids and making full use of the day.
This morning there were many more poeple using the walking/bike path and beach than traffic on Alex Pde. Give it a go. Get up earlier. Get the kids and come on down.
Oh and we were there (again) for Wed PM nippers board training. Thanks Mark and Neil for coaching and volunteering.
And thanks to Maleny_Mum (6-10..3.03pm) for incitfull thoughts.
The only thing I missed was the smart barbie and "high quality bottle of wine" to quote a famous local.
What's not to get? You get up, get dressed, walk out the door and enjoy the cooler time of the day for walking, exercise, swimming, gardening etc.
All I can say -is-Get over it -or get out!!
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