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6:05AM Tuesday 02 December, 2008

Scout leader sent flirty texts to girl

Scout leader sent flirty texts to girl

David Scott Grieve leaves Maroochydore Court. Photo: Warren Lynam/178851

A Sunshine Coast scout leader and school bus driver has pleaded guilty to a charge after sending flirtatious text messages to a 14-year-old girl.

He will not be able to work with children again.

David Scott Grieve, 42, sent a series of messages to the high school student on September 5 last year after a drinking session with his mates.

Mr Grieve pleaded guilty yesterday to using electronic equipment to expose a child under the age of 16 to indecent matter. 

 The bus driver had obtained the girl’s phone number earlier that day.

He had wanted to sign her and a friend up to the scout group of which he was a leader.

Maroochydore District Court heard yesterday that 14 text messages were exchanged between Mr Grieve and the girl while she was at a friend’s house.

When the friend’s mother discovered the text messages she immediately contacted police.

The court heard the girl had already deleted many of the messages by the time officers looked at her phone.

Mr Grieve was charged with using electronic equipment to expose a child under the age of 16 to indecent matter.

The crown prosecution argued that Mr Grieve was aware of the girl’s age from her bus pass.

Mr Grieve subsequently lost his Blue Card, which is a requirement of working with children.

He also lost his job as a bus driver and has left his position as scout leader.

Mr Grieve now works as a security provider in hotels and bars around the Sunshine Coast.

Defence barrister Stephen Courtney told the court Mr Grieve had suffered “significant embarrassment” after news of the offence spread around the hinterland town in which he lives.

“The offending was a stupid game after some drinks, with no intent to go any further,” Mr Courtney said.

Mr Courtney said his client could not recall how the text session began.

He suggested it would be a more serious offence if Mr Grieve was a school teacher.

“If a teacher engaged in an exchange like this it would be very concerning,” Judge John Robertson said.

Judge Robertson did not record a conviction but sentenced Mr Grieve to serve 180 hours of community service.

“You have engaged in this conduct spontaneously, the texts obtained indicate there was a form of exchange with the 14-year old girl,” Judge Robertson said.

He said Mr Grieve was a mature man who should have known better.

“You as the adult in a position of trust should not have allowed yourself to get involved in sexual interaction with a child.”

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on 14 October, 2008 at 5:53 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Mr. Grieve should be thankful the child's Mother found the text messages or else Mr. Grieve could've found himself with a lot tougher sentence if anything further had happened.

Tough luck he was embarrassed in his community...so he should've been. He's only embarrassed because he was caught or else who knows where it could've gone.
on 14 October, 2008 at 7:44 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I am amazed at the stupidity of some who do not consider the outcomes when using electronic devises to communicate.

Besides being stupid embracing juveniles in actions considered sexual or harmful is no-brainer conduct.
on 14 October, 2008 at 8 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Poor Mr Grieves, Bit embarrassed was he???

DIRTBAG!!!!!!
on 14 October, 2008 at 9:09 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
How can people be suprised with this article. Look up the name Robert Baden-Powell, who was the founder of the scouts movement, and see why he actually started the movement.
on 14 October, 2008 at 10:19 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Sav77, you are way off... Baden-Powell started the Scouting movement in order to teach children from all walks of life essential survival techniques, and he first had this idea when he was at war, and the children were used as Scouts to deliver messages. Ppl always bag any community movements when negative publicity comes into view, but what about all the community organisations who do good things for the community? There are always going to be bad apples, but dont tar the entire scouting movement with the same brush. If you were going to do that, you might as well wipe out the entire catholic church, teachers, counsellors...how about bus drivers?? I do have one thing to say though - those blue cards are a joke. Just because the person doesn't have any convictions against them, just means that they haven't been reported yet.
on 14 October, 2008 at 11:33 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Not sure how I feel about him working as security in hotels & pubs around the coast. If he felt comfortable enough to take advantage of a MINOR in a way that made her feel uncomfortable, oh yeah and thats right... abuse his power (acting as a scout leader)... whats to say he wont abuse his power as a security guard or take advantage of a situation in his current position?

on 14 October, 2008 at 12:02 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
sav77, you really need to check your facts. There is no proof that there was anything sinister behind the creation of the scouts, apart from a tabloid style report on 'possible' repressed homosexuality (already discredited).

If we assume for a minute that you are correct, then I guess everyone should abandon the church because of what a few bad apples have done in the past, take out kids out of school because of what a few bad apples have done.

People like the idiot in the main article are not the norm, and to make thousands of people guilty by association is just narrow minded, petty and downright silly.
on 14 October, 2008 at 4:25 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
wallet72 people shouldn't abandon the church because of a few bad apples, they should abandon the church because there is no reason to be deluded anymore. THIS IS 2008, not 01 AD, haven't we as a race advanced enough, not to need silly superstitions and fears controlling our lives.

All religion creates is hatred and wars
on 15 October, 2008 at 11:54 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
sav77: it's not religion that creates hatred and war, it's the small number of narrow minded and intolerant people that think that everyone should agree with them.
on 15 October, 2008 at 1:46 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
sav77......you're not serious are you?
on 16 October, 2008 at 6:47 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
sav77, almost right, religion encourages a sheep like mentality which allows a greedy few to herd people into hatred and wars. Same could be said for ideologies like Communism, laissez-faire capitalism, vigilante mobs or anything that replaces critical thinking with dogma or dog whistles. It's easier to have faith in a book or a speaker than think for yourself with the realisation that for some questions the answers are unknown. People have been abusing power since the first person realised they had influence over someone else.

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