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5:59AM Tuesday 02 December, 2008

Magpies attacked

Magpies attacked

A Coast man has called for attacking magpies to be put down. Photo: David Thomas/152157

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If a dog caused this sort of damage to a child the authorities would ensure it would be put down.

But if a bird is the cause of the injuries, then you are on your own.

Or at least that is the message one Maroochydore father received after he attempted to alert the Environmental Protection Agency and the Sunshine Coast Regional council to what he called a “rogue” magpie which caused serious facial injuries to his 14-year-old daughter.

Phil Press and his daughter Courtenay were enjoying their regular Saturday bicycle ride along Broadwater Avenue last week, when a vicious magpie swooped down and struck Courtenay on her ear.

The pair stopped and assessed the damage before quickly continuing on their way back home, when the magpie came in for a second round.

This time Courtenay tried to duck, but she lost her balance and fell off her bike sliding her face along the road.

“A neighbour got Courtenay into her car and I walked the bikes home and it did another run at me,” Mr Press said.

“If I had any way of taking care of the bird I would have then and there.

“I can’t think of any animal that can attack humans repeatedly and get away with it, as others in the street have also been attacked.”

Courtenay needed three stitches to repair a cut just under her eye and her parents are haunted by what could have happened – if avoiding the bird had forced their daughter into the path of a car.

Fourteen-year-old Courtenay Press shows the injuries she sustained when she fell off her bike after being hit by a swooping magpie.

Mr Press said residents in Broadwater Avenue had spoken to him about the magpie attacks and said it needed to be removed for safety reasons.

However, when he contacted the EPA, he was told that their policy was to not remove the birds. He was advised he could arrange for a commercial operator to assess the situation and if appropriate relocate it, at a personal cost of $250.

“That is a hell of a lot of money for most normal families,” he said.

“Someone should be taking responsibility for this.”

A spokeswoman for the EPA said a ranger visited Mr Press yesterday and assessed the area “as to immediate risk” and erected standard warning signs to inform residents of the presence of swooping birds.

She said the agency did not remove problem birds and instead encouraged people to take the necessary precautions to live with magpies during the nesting season which runs for about six to eight weeks between July and December, peaking between August and October.

“Removing a magpie does not negate a risk to the community. Once a bird is removed, another, more aggressive bird might move into that territory. For this reason the EPA does not generally move magpies,” she said.

How to avoid a magpie attack

The male magpie is responsible for most swoops and the swooping is almost entirely limited to the magpie ‘defence zone’ – the area around the nest tree.

While their territory is a few hectares, the defence zone is usually only about 100 metres in radius.

The magpie’s aim is to drive the perceived intruder away from the nest, not to cause injury. Leaving the area quickly almost always stops the swooping.

Stay well clear of areas where magpies are known to be swooping, particularly the nesting tree.

If you must enter the area, move through it quickly, but don’t run. Wear a hat and sunglasses or carry an umbrella. Cyclists should dismount and walk through the territory, which will reduce the chance of falling off the bike or swerving if a bird does swoop. Cyclists can also attach large cable ties to the back of their helmet – use two black ties, sticking up like antennae.

The EPA does not remove magpies, but in some areas there are licensed contractors who will perform this service. Call the EPA on 1300 130 372 or your local council for details.

See www.epa.qld.gov.au or call the EPA on 1300 130 372.

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on 4 September, 2008 at 6:41 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
What a goose. May be teach your better bike skills and road awareness.
on 4 September, 2008 at 6:58 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
What the EPA says makes the most sense as in if you remove one bird then another will just take it's place. We destroy so much wildlife in the name of human progress that I think we can just learn to live with the nesting maggies for a few months of the year.

I've always fed maggies wherever we lived, and they do remember that and although attack others, they don't attack us.
on 4 September, 2008 at 7:16 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
magpies attack repeatedly primarily because they are attacked.

swooping is natural and fairly harmless, but if a magpie then cops some idiot waving a brolly or lump of wood, then they will attack more regularly. if some idiot on a bike starts waving something at the magpie they will associate bikes with danger.

we have four nests within a dogs walk of home. None of them attack my family. Yet they do attack other idiots who are known as a danger - ie those who wave things at them. I've been out the front gardening with magpies at my feet and watched them attack people on the other side of the street from us and the nest. That person has been seen in the past carrying a magpie attack stick to try and kill the magpie, not just ward it off. He has at t imes spent five minutes trying to kill a diving magpie. And people wonder why they swoop?

the magpie closest to our home knows our garden is cat free and therefore safe. It has got used to us as people and accepts we do no harm. The other close by magpie territories must be related or magpies are communicating who is dangerous and who isn't. I can't explain the magpies furtherst from us not swooping when other people are swooped other than they et each other know.
on 4 September, 2008 at 7:55 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
The majority of male magpies do this every year around mating season. Dodging magpies has been a rite of passage for Queensland kids for eons. The comparison with a dog attack is unfounded - a dog can rip a face apart.

Are we seriously expected to put down every magpie that obeys it's instincts? Maybe we should just give up now and wrap our children in as much cotton wool as we can afford...

Harden up Maroochydore!
on 4 September, 2008 at 8:17 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Why not kill every creature that lives in suburbia except cats and dogs? This is a sad suggestion. Magpie nesting season is a well known annual event. Just wear a bike helmet or carry something to deter the bird like a small stick or jacket to wave at it.
on 4 September, 2008 at 8:22 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Here's a thought..... if you know that the maggpie was in a certain area then avoid that area. Maybe parents should be put down for not using common sense and putting their child in danger? Would you let your child play in an area that you knew a dangerous dog frequented?
on 4 September, 2008 at 8:23 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
When I was a child in country Victoria, there were always Magpie "attacks', they are only protecting their young . I resorted to a hat (no compulsory helmets in those days) and a pair of sunnies on the back of my head, maggies thought I was looking at them.
I knew were their tree was and avoided the area until the breeding season was over, which is what any reasonable father like Courtenay's should do, if you must go bike riding , go the other way!!
Or move to the Territory, there are no Magpies up there!!
on 4 September, 2008 at 8:48 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Crocs are moved to 'safe' areas....sharks are viciously hunted and culled after an attack....dogs are put down....dingo numbers are at a minimum.

Why not magpies? The argument that a more aggressive animal may move into the area is false logic. That could happen anytime, even with humans.
on 4 September, 2008 at 8:55 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Actually the best thing for magpies, is wearing glasses on the back of your head. They will not attack anything that is looking at them. Maybe you could also paint eyes on the back of bike helmets.
Also nice picture, I thought Courtney fell on the bitumen, but is clearly lying on the grass.
Also if the councils stop land development, the magpies, and other NATIVE animals might have somewhere safe to live. Which in turn will make it a bit safer for all of daddies little girls out their.

The photograph was contributed by the father, Ed
on 4 September, 2008 at 9:10 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Very Dramatic photo SCD

The photograph was contributed by the father, Ed.
on 4 September, 2008 at 9:12 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
It's all well & good to sit & chastise the father (a goose whatthea - that's a bit harsh) given the outcome. Would the response be any different if the teenager was travelling on the road & was hit by a car in the incident? Yes we are all aware that around this time of year the magpies get territorial, & unless the area is well signed you get a rude shock when swooped upon.

I think sometimes we put the value of native fauna above that of people, let's hope there are no serious long term side-effects for the young girl, both physical & mental. Heaven forbid we should remove or put down ONE bird in order to protect the wider community. For crying out loud - what is of more value, can you seriously begrudge the father for wanting to vent anger/frustration over what happened to his daughter?
on 4 September, 2008 at 9:42 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I can relate to this episode being a cyclist myself. During this time of year being swooped by magpies is definately no laughing matter and if evasive action is taken can lead to further injury.However, these birds are only protecting their young and we all know how vicious some of them can get, the simple solution is find an alternate route until the season is over. Courtney received a peck on the ear, her other injuries coming from a fall from her bike. Is this reason enough to shoot a bird that is only doing what comes naturally? I dont think so!!
on 4 September, 2008 at 9:51 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
You dont put down down one bird jas73 - another one will take it's place and do the same thing. It is a natural instincet. At some stage we DO have to put the value of nature above ourselves or we will have nothing left to whinge about. We have to learn to live in harmony with nature and that means when maggies are nesting, then learn to avoid them or take precautions. (many have been suggested here). Otherwise you may as well go and kill everything you arent happy living alongside. To even suggest killing a magpie for attacking someone is nothing short of ludicrous.
on 4 September, 2008 at 10:16 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
The two images posted with this ridiculous beat-up both indicate, if taken at face value, a callous disregard by the photographer for the welfare of the victim. Of course they are staged, which utterly destroys the credibility of the story. Mr Press' protective instinct is normal and forgivable - so is the bird's.

Ed: Mr Press provided the Daily with the photo of his daughter. The other photo was taken by a Daily photographer and depicts a legitimate magpie attack.
on 4 September, 2008 at 10:29 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
It's a shame this young girl was injured and I hope she recovers quickly. But you cannot continually kill off things that may cause injury to others.

If this is your thinking then I suggest investing in a large roll of bubble wrap.

At the end of the day, Mr. Press, we are all animals and the bird is not attacking humans, it's attacking animals it see's as a threat to it's nest.

Just as you would do should your home come under attack.

Let nature be.
on 4 September, 2008 at 11:25 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Exactly, Jolene: let nature be.
And if people don't like nature, have a good think about why you are here, or why you came here.
And maybe find some place else to live where concrete has replaced nature.
on 4 September, 2008 at 11:46 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
In my opinion, I believe Phil Press is just looking for someone to blame. If the girl had ridden over a rock/stone which made her fall off her bike, it would have been the council or EPA instead. People should just get over themselves, stop making a big deal out of uncontrollable incidents, and realise that sometimes s**t happens... There's no reason for it, we deal with it as best we can, and move on.

I once got attacked (if you can call it that) by one of these Magpies while walking across a rooftop car park to get to my car, sure, it shocked me, but I'm big enough and mature enough to realise that this animal is going by its natural instincts, it's not done with malicious intent.
on 4 September, 2008 at 1:26 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I am shocked and saddened when I watch how other youngsters between the ages of 4 and 8 constantly tease the innocent magpies at my son's soccer grounds all the while their 'concerned' parents are sitting by..just watching and do and say nothing. These poor birds swoop again and again at the teasing kids only to be chased and worried back.

I wonder if and when the kid/s eventually gets hurt by the birds..will these "unconcerned" parents just sit back and do nothing???? My son and I definately whoop & cheer on the Magpies!! Go the Magpies!!
on 4 September, 2008 at 3:03 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Remove/kill the bird. I agree with the father. Let's not live under any pretence that humans don't kill animals for their own benefit. Enjoy your steak/chicken/fish for dinner. And if you're vegetarian, hope they're not leather shoes!
on 4 September, 2008 at 4:53 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I blame alan didack whose behaviour has
led less talented magpies to think they can
get away with anything
on 4 September, 2008 at 5:13 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
If he really cared for his daughter he would have spent less time staging this photograph and more time actually caring for her and cleaning her up. Deary me how would you cope if you had a REAL problem to deal with Mr Press.
on 4 September, 2008 at 6:28 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I was attacked by a maggie when I was younger and riding my bike home from school at marcoola, It hit me square in the nose leaving a hole and also scrached my face causing me to fall of my bike, even though it scared the daylights out of me and left a scar I don't blame the bird, it is nature and I just avoided the area in the future.
on 4 September, 2008 at 7:29 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Wow! What a dramatic photo (Yes Ed. I know it was provided the father) I’m sure the magpie didn’t knock the girl off her bike, it may have caused her to fall but…that is only nature at work. The magpie was only doing what comes naturally, protecting its nest.
on 4 September, 2008 at 8:53 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
The indian minor birds are worse than maggies, they harrass and chase all birds including osprey, kookaburra and crows. Kill them instead if you must.
on 4 September, 2008 at 11:31 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Is this for real?? People actually want to kill birds for what...to completely "sterilize" the natural world around us??

There's a huge difference between an attacking dog and an attacking magpie: the dog is a domesticated animal in the control of a human whereas a Magpie is a wild animal and attacks to defend itself, its young, and its territory (most likely a nest). HUGE DIFFERENCE.

Leave the birds alone and stop encroaching into their habitat, it's what's provoking the attacks!

The fact that the birds are after children speaks volumes and indicates that the children might well be harassing the birds and elliciting the retaliatory strikes.

But far be if from most parents to ever say anything but "Oh, but MY child would never do that...!" Uh huh.
on 5 September, 2008 at 10:33 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
How sad that people are urging for maggies to be culled just because they are doing what any animal would do if intimidated. Breeding season only last a short time, so not too much to ask that people be aware of this and take precautions. In Vic.,(no, I am a Q'lander) I observed walkers and cyclists with spiky hats, being watched closely by a lot of maggies, but not one attacked. Cable ties attached to a hat, cap or helmet, looking like a porcupine, very effective and very cheap. Maybe the EPA, through your paper, could bring to the notice of people each year, when breeding season is starting, so that we don't have this hysteria. Isn't it a rule of life, that we do what we have to, to assure our own safety.
on 6 September, 2008 at 2:22 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Most of the comments are ill informed. I have been attacked while riding my bike 4 times in the last week each time they have come from behind and given me a painful blow on my ears. It is frightening and I did avoid a particular bird but then was attacked by another. I must admit if I had some means of retaliation I would have used it. It is a frightening and dangerous business and I in no way provoked the attack in fact I'm a bird lover.
on 7 September, 2008 at 11:36 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I understand both sides of this debate and would understand having to walk/ride a different route to avoid an attack however we have a magpie attacking our 17 month old daughter everytime she's outside in our own backyard and I think the EPA should remove/relocate it.

When it first started swooping I went on the internet and read that it's all bluff and very rarely do magpies attack and do damage so stupidly this lulled me into a false sense of security. My daughter was wearing a hat and it managed to knock her hat off and claw her head before my husband and I could get to her in time (we were only about 15 metres away). She has since been clawed again on the top of the head (leaving 3 clear cuts from its claw) and I've had enough.

I'm all for living with nature however I don't think it's fair that I have to keep her out of our own yard for 'approx 6 weeks' and I can't get a 17 month old to wave a stick/umbrella around or stare until they retreat. And making her keep a hat on is a big enough challenge (not that it helps) but there's no way she can wear sunglasses on the top of her head either.

Apart from the fear of serious injury my other biggest concern is that our little girl, who loves being outside, is going to develop a fear of birds let alone maybe not wanting to go outside. I'm already freaking out everytime we are outside keeping an eye on the bird and her and knowing that it's going to attack her any chance it gets. It even goes for her when walking from our front door to the car (approx 5 metres away).

I understand that this magpie is protecting it's children and frankly that's all I want to do for my child so think that removal/relocation of the swooping male would be the best solution.
on 8 September, 2008 at 9:56 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Iv just moved here from NZ, and until now, did not actually know about this magpie problem. My sister was swooped a few days ago, and my uncle, while riding his bike a few weeks ago came home with blood pouring down his face from being pecked so many times. Im now PETRIFIED to walk outdoors. Whenever i go out for a walk i am constantly looking around. I came on the internet tonite to find out how i can protect myself and my young child (as while walking outside, i see magpies every day, everywhere) i came across this. I dont blame people from wanting these birds removed. However there are so many, i doubt it would be effective. WHen is the 'season' supposed to end? i want to get on with my life!
on 11 September, 2008 at 11:01 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Much of the advice provided refers to avoiding the area during the swooping season.
That is fine if you know twhere the problem magpies are. Perhaps the Dialy or the SCRC could publish a daily map of known sites and hence we can all plan our journeys accordingly and avoid this conflict with nature?
Please voice your support or otherwise for this idea.
on 17 September, 2008 at 8:45 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Hi everyone, i've just had my licence suspended and unfortunitly have to ride to work now a days. It takes me 1 hour to ride into work & most days get attacked by Magpies at least 3 times on my way. My brother gave me a great idea of straping a cable tie to my helmet with the long end up while angled back 45 degrees. You know what.... it works! The magpies were always hitting my helmet but seems now they come in contact with the cable tie and fly away. They do come back to see what the hell it was that they flu into but they don't attack my helmet anymore. Yes, we may look silly to motorist but its us out there against them. Just looks like you have a antenna sticking out of your helmet. Try it and let us know.... Hope this helps. Creedy

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